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this vote will decide about the future of this invention: |
this can be added to the game |
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it needs some changes but it is a good invention |
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i will post the needed changes here |
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no good try another one |
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tec_server Technology Bot

Joined: 04 Nov 2002 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:05 pm Post subject: clone labs mkii |
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clone labs mkii (basic research)
this research will increase your population by 10%. the number of people required to man your ships unlike in clone labs mki will not increase the mp of everyship by 1 but instead, increase it by 12% and rounded down. in this way class 1 and 2 based fleets are made more worthwhile.
mathematical mumbo jumbo:
so the new mp is: old mp x 112/100
ships of over 8 mp get a penalty of 1 extra mp.
ships of over 16 mp get a penalty of 2 extra mp
ships of over 24 mp get a penalty of 3 extra mp
by the time you reach the cruisers at 60 mp the required mp is 67
therefore if your average mp per ship is less than 42 than this research is worth while
(with the clone labs mki your mp per ship has to be over 10 to be worthwhile)
researchtime: 3 d
needed research:
science recycle methods |
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Connor McCloud Admiral


Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 916 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Could it be this is an invention from a multi
It sure looks like it don't bother inventing ships just send all your mp in 1 fleet to my base  _________________ Greetz Connor
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kamekaze6 Admiral


Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 1312 Location: Malta
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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I actually invented it :p I thought how could clone labs benefit users of the lower classes?? Farmers wouldn't really benefit from this. |
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Bloodmagic Commander


Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 80
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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ha
i see the issue of manpower is still debated
i must admit though,
this invention makes sense.
but
it should not be accumilative with the normal clone labs.
although i doubt this will be added |
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kamekaze6 Admiral


Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 1312 Location: Malta
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think it would be added with the normal clone labs... it wouldn't make much sense as it would cause problems for both class 1 and 3, the only fleet you could use successfully would be class 2 only.... |
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Bloodmagic Commander


Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 80
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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i ment
that you cannot research both
one
or
the other
for the sake of keeping mp down
think:
starting mp = 5300
+ 10% (clone labs)
= 5830
+ 10% (clone labs mkii)
= 6413 (estimate)
as you said, only use with class 2
1000 eagles = 4000
to
1500 eagles = 6000
+ 320 (mothership)
+ 60 (cruiser)
overall:
6380mp (used)
to me that fleet is to powerful...apollos will eat it alive, but most people use upto 13-14 apollos.
there are other ways to defeat the fleet (doomstars, bounty hunter/fighter fleets)
but no
if this is added
then you have to choose between clone labs or clone labs mkii |
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Rubens Admiral

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Posts: 1422
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject: Re: clone labs mkii |
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tec_server wrote: | clone labs mkii (basic research)
this research will increase your population by 10%. the number of people required to man your ships unlike in clone labs mki will not increase the mp of everyship by 1 but instead, increase it by 12% and rounded down. in this way class 1 and 2 based fleets are made more worthwhile.
mathematical mumbo jumbo:
so the new mp is: old mp x 112/100
ships of over 8 mp get a penalty of 1 extra mp.
ships of over 16 mp get a penalty of 2 extra mp
ships of over 24 mp get a penalty of 3 extra mp
by the time you reach the cruisers at 60 mp the required mp is 67
therefore if your average mp per ship is less than 42 than this research is worth while
(with the clone labs mki your mp per ship has to be over 10 to be worthwhile)
researchtime: 3 d
needed research:
science recycle methods |
Lets just have 1 clone labs..  |
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lilkrnboi1018 Admiral

Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 1182 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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i agree _________________ PWNAGE!
Gotta love the Magnum (RE 0-3)
Or the Eagle (RE 3)
Leader of DEFIANCE
The grounds are soaked... with your blood! |
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Connor McCloud Admiral


Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 916 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:57 am Post subject: |
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kamekaze6 wrote: | I actually invented it :p I thought how could clone labs benefit users of the lower classes?? Farmers wouldn't really benefit from this. |
OK , But all these multi's think " the more ships the better " that's why I thought it was a multi invention
Still I hope it won't be put into the game _________________ Greetz Connor
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kamekaze6 Admiral


Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 1312 Location: Malta
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Actually connor. Multies ould use the other clone labs. MotherShipses and mantises duh!! |
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Connor McCloud Admiral


Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 916 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: |
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The point I mean is they don't understand the game but just go for the more ships thing . more ships = more score
BTW don't give them hints on how to become a good scoring multi , just shoot them before they shoot themself  _________________ Greetz Connor
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Noxus Vice Admiral


Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 493 Location: Michigan, USA
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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i dont really like the clone labs as much and i dont really like this one...
nobody really uses the clone labs... really only n00bs get this cause they think its all that and its a wonderful invention...
now i know this is a little bit different but i still dont like it cause i thinkthat people will like it until.. they find out that its actually not as great as they thought...
i dont really like clone labs and i think this is another way for people trying to munipulate Spacetrace and make it better but when it actually doesnt... _________________ -==Frag the Weak, Hurdle the Dead.==- |
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kamekaze6 Admiral


Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 1312 Location: Malta
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:56 am Post subject: |
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I'm using clone labs. |
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