Call to War on TFP

[wapy]

the tfp will be destroyed thats all i need to hear lol muhahaha

[wapy]

ok guy further more proof that they are multis hhaha i recieved a msg and this is wot it says

12.06 13:23 From:Viking of Valhalle
So this is the way you want to play.
You can't handle our way of attacking so we are multi.
You will pay for this. Maybe not by me or maybe me with a new account if this one is unusable. But you will pay

[An offer you cant refuse]

Wapy, that is not proof. He is saying that he may have to restart under a new name.

This is not for vengeance, nor for fun. I can think of a shit ton better ways to spend my time than fighting some lazy multi fleets. This must be taken very seriously, for the good of the game.

I believe that some of them may be honestly trying to mend their ways, but some of them are still multis. To fix it, we have to punish them all. This is no laughing matter at all. If they are honest, we are ruining the game for them, and that is sad. We dont want to chase off any fair player from Spacetrace.

Its like putting down your dog.

If you want to laugh about it, wapy, I will come to your homeworld and kick your @$$ myself.

[Space Ghost]

Cant argue with that.

[mdellis]

yeah, soz 2 do this 2 a fellow member wapy, but that isnt really proof. o, and btw, i hav removed the coordinates from my post earlier. i wud also like to appologise to the tfp for posting them. whatever they may or may not have done, it was wrong of me, and dishonourable, to post them. i appologise unreservedly. however, this will not stem my resolve to destroy the multis. sorry if i got your hopes up.

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[mdellis]

i also completely agree wiv An offer you cant refuse. this is a very serious matter, and it shud b treated as such. i dont like the game being ruined for good ppl, thats y i want to b part of this; to find the multis. if we do wipe out innocent players in the tfp, then it is sad. it is a bad day 4 spacetrace, when in order to cure the headache we hav to cut off the head. while i hate multis and attack them with zeal, i feel sorry for any honest players that i may hit, i really do. we all should. thanku An offer you cant refuse for making that point.

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[mdellis]

in fact, to go further than that, if the tfp are proved to be innocent, i will personally accept the blame for the evidence presented against them.

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[Aeleon]

I have checked out some of the old post on multis and found some helpful post from admins at http://forum.spacetrace.com/viewtopic.php?topic=916&forum=11.

[Aeleon]

Progress report: I know Leia, a killer instint of star of death, and sneaky of globe have been attacked so far by Privateers and -TO-. We have had some of our bases come under attack from TFP so I will be heading to defend when I can.

The best way to do this may be to put a probe on you target and if you see others attacking that target contact them to coordinate you actions.

I have Leia's base on probe and a killer instinct. Post who you have on probe here and let others contact you to plan actions.

Also, please post who you have already attacked so we can get an idea how the war is going.

Thanks,
Aeleon

[ This Message was edited by: Aeleon on 2004-06-13 14:31 ]

[promethius2]

I got a very good idea for combatting multi's.
A court. The admin is the judge. And when a player is a suspected multi twelve people become the jury.
Then we hear the evidence we hear thye defence we have a vote, and bing bang boom the multi's account is deleted, or the defended!
WHAT SAY YOU?

[Aeleon]

@promethius2

That sounds like a good idea, but from what I have been reading, I don't think the admin have the time. It sounds like even if the admin knows who the multis are that he does not have the time to deal with them all.

[Investigator]

[Weylyn]

You could create a more fullproof court.
One player forwards the evidence.
12 jurors to analyse it.
suspect can choose to make a statement in his defence.
jurors reach a verdict.
Judge (could be both player or admin) decides punishment.

The way I see it the judge is the main problem. This could also be a player. He simply passes on the sentence to an admin to be carried out.
The judges could also be given limited admin powers, but you would have to find judges that are 100% trustworthy to avoid abuse.

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[An offer you cant refuse]

I do not think it is necessary to make a big production out of this. The admin can do what they want, and that is the end of it. We dont need juries, or judges, or cops, or district attorneys, or anything else.

By establishing a system like that, you are assuming that players have a right to play. Spacetrace is not a right, it's a privelege.

I was a moderator in a game before I came to Spacetrace (Right, Technoseal? ). It is tough to be 100% sure who is a cheater and who isnt. Of course, you want people to play, so you cant just ban people at will. Not only that, but admin works, has families, etc. Spacetrace is a hobby, not a 40 hour/week career.

If someone were to be suspected of being a multi, and there is enough evidence to take him to "trial", F-it, just ban him. It would be more work and pain in the ass to present this to 12 players and wait for them to all get back to you, anyways. (And they would always find him guilty.)

One more note. Multis dont really give a crap anyways. They would quit even if they werent caught, after a little while. I had two friends I told about this game, and they played for a while, but then got bored of it, so they made multi accounts, then quit after a day or two.

[An offer you cant refuse]

It looks like some of them have deleted already


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[ This Message was edited by: An offer you cant refuse on 2004-06-13 17:53 ]

[Dutchbatter]

Ok, we can all fight multi's and we do it.

But we don't need game updates with judge and jury's. Spacetrace is of the admin's and they have the right to do what they want. If they want to bann a player, than they will do it. If they give a player the change to delete his multi account, then we have to accept it. This is the game of the admin's and they don't ask money to play.

So for all players, accept the decissions of the admin,

For the multi's, follow the rules of the admin, be not multi. It is the admin's game and it is for free. So be happy and play with 1 account!!!!!!!!!!
Delete your multi account!

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All soldiers will fight, only the best soldiers win!

[ This Message was edited by: Dutchbatter on 2004-06-13 18:05 ]

[Nemesis]

@An offer... You were moderator of that game? Didn't think there were much to do there. Must be loosing my memory


Anyway,
I have a probe at Leia's planet and as stated earlier, I have already attacked her.
Now they have 7 fleets that might be gathering to retaliate against me. They are currently 6 sectors away.

[An offer you cant refuse]

[JaM]

[Nemesis]