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elite fighter (class 1 ship) Breaks through the enemy class 1 and 2 defence and directly attacks the enemy class 3 but you loose some class 2 ships while they were providing cover for an elite fighter. invented by marlito1 2006-12-21 20:07:30 Attack/life: 0/1 Manpower: 9 Researchtime: 1 d Buildingtime: 13 h kazuuula-Technology Needed research: advanced tactics Battle details: modifies AP/LP by 0/-27 of 1 ship of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in class 3 battlemessage: "elite fighter attacks ... ships" (battle engine syntax: mod,enemy,1,3,all,+,0,-27,elite fighter attacks) modifies LP by -5000 of 10 ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in class 2, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect. battlemessage: "while providing cover there were ... ships" (battle engine syntax: obliterate,self,10,2,all,while providing cover there were)   —> Forum Topic about this ship Vrictus: we have cerberus fighters for this but i think all the cerberus are gone damn O-siris: we can talk about this it seems nice if indeed the cerberus are gone what do you think Rubens??? Rubens: Hmm...its not the same than the cerberus beside its another raze. I think it can be aprobed it really hurts you. Just a change needed Reducing LP to 0 of the c2 ships besides the "-5000" And a change suggested by me Lets make it 10-15 mp but 2 or 3 of lp Pretty good indeed Vrictus: now you have said that Rubens this could be a very good ship does anyone know who invented it?? O-siris: "Hmm...its not the same than the cerberus beside its another raze. I think it can be aprobed it really hurts you. Just a change needed Reducing LP to 0 of the c2 ships besides the "-5000" And a change suggested by me Lets make it 10-15 mp but 2 or 3 of lp Pretty good indeed" why to 0 than you would be able to reconstruct them Rubens: And thats the point! Its a bit more balanced then Knight of Truth: I think it is a good idea, with a few of the changes mentioned before, and some spelling fixes in the descriptin, it could be added. O-siris: "And thats the point! Its a bit more balanced then" maybe it is than

 

kamikaze (class 1 ship) Under self destruction it deals 35 damage to one enemy ship, but also destroys two more ships of your own fleet. (caution! self destruction!) Attack/life: 35/1 Manpower: 1 Researchtime: 1 d Buildingtime: 11 h human-Technology Needed research: fanatic warfare Battle details: fights (battle engine syntax: f) modifies LP by -5000 of 2 ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in the same class, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect. battlemessage: "kamikaze destroys ... ships" (battle engine syntax: obliterate,self,2,this,all,kamikaze destroys) self destructs! (battle engine syntax: sd)   —> Forum Topic about this ship Metody I The Evil: It acts in the class it's fighting, so if the enemy has no class1 it's doing it's mission in the upper classes... That's the only way to gain points from it :)23 darklim: "battle details:fights (battle engine syntax: f) modifies AP/LP by 0/-1100 of 2 ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in the same class battlemessage: "kamikaze destroys ... ships" (battle engine syntax: mod,self,2,this,all,+,0,-1100,kamikaze destroys) self destructs! (battle engine syntax: sd)" This mean the Kamikaze destroy 4 of your own ships? JaM: No the first one is the english translation or discription of the battlesyntax. You spammed this forum since May and you don't know that. :)20 Or did you thought every ship fougt twice because it say fights and it has the f command. Or this ship self destructs twice :)19 discription: fights syntax: f discription: modifies AP/LP by 0/-1100 of 2 ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in the same class message: "kamikaze destroys ... ships" syntax: mod,self,2,this,all,+,0,-1100,kamikaze destroys discription: self destructs! syntax: sd Now understand it? darklim: Ah, Thanks JaM :)23 The battly syntax is a bit confusing :)20 _________________ Joined in May 15, 2003 and got a lot of post. I'm the greatest spammer of Space Trace Forum. But i think it are a "bug" man_mod: The Kamikaze is a very destructive ship but as with other Self destructing ships should be used with caution. Due to it's immense fire power of 35ap as a class 1 ship the kamikaze is best used to fight against the higher classes ideally class 3 or 4, as most of these have higher lp than 35. So the best use for them is to keep them in a secondary(or third) fleet and by themselves to be used after you have eliminated the enemy's class 1 and 2. This due to the Self destuctive behavior of the ship. For every enemy ship a Kamikaze attacks, it will destroy itself and a further 2 more random class 1 ships in your own fleet. So it is strongly advised that you do not use this ship to fight in it's own class, as for every enemy class 1 you will destroy (+(1) point) you will lose 3 kamikaze (-3 points) The kamikaze can be used against class 2, but with minimal postive results. Other class 1 ships can make a much more posative score for this job. Here is an example of the profit of attacking class 3. " your class 1 vs enemy class 3 : you: 200 kamikaze (35/1, 1 MP) enemy: 14 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP) 42 kamikaze destroy 84 ships 42 kamikaze vs 14 cruisers 14 cruisers vs 14 kamikaze losses: you : 140 kamikaze enemy : 14 cruisers score in this subbattle: 700" So your calculation for this battle should be done as such : 14 (amount of cruisers) x 3 (kamikazes needed to destroy 1 cruiser) 42 x 3 (kamekazes self destructing per cruiser) destroyed) + 14 (amount of cruisers) = 140 That is the construction of the calculation. The sum fortunatly can be simplified to 14 x 10. (for cruisers) for attacking other class 3/4 ships/buildings the calculation should be corrected accordingly. You should always take a few extra kamikazes then calculated to compensate for the random battle order (who shoots first). It's also a good idea to use Commando Fighters along with kamikazes as it will double their firepower to 70/1 when activated. the best way to counter kamikaze is with C1 killers such as the Cyclops or the Spectre. Another way is simply to attack them with standard fighters. admin: the kamikaze should get the kill syntax instead of -1100LP. cause it should kill 2 of your ships in any case, no effect should counter this

 

troika module (class 2 ship) One of the three pieces of the troika Attack/life: 4/4 Buildingtime: 12 h nanite-Technology Battle details: fights (battle engine syntax: f) after the fight of each subbattle of your class 2, but only once (if there are more ships doing the same effect) it modifies LP by -5000 of all troika modules in your own fleet in class 2, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect. (battle engine syntax: event_once,2,obliterate,self,all,2,troika module) Related technologies:  troika   —> Forum Topic about this ship IceZoo: "after the fight of each subbattle of your class 2, but only once (if there are more ships doing the same effect) it modifies AP and LP by -5000/-5000 of all troika modules in your own fleet in class 2, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect." Before I comment on what I think this means? What does it mean? noah: It means that all your troika modules are destroyed and have to be recreated for the next battle. you dont lose any points it just gets rid of your old troika modules so you dont keep getting ships. BladeTech: yep. that is one great thing about troikas darklim: How much point will get destroying one troika module? I think you get 0 Metody I The Evil: Exactly darklim: Is that destroy the Troika you loss point? I think yes. But the module not and the module can fight. This ship is amazing. IceZoo: "there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect." This is the part that has me scratching my head. If you are at someones planet, and there are still some left, do they destroy the buildings too? darklim: That effect is less seen than others effect. BladeTech: where did that quote come from? darklim: I discover something very important!!! That is think is a bug. The Troika module that fight in 3 battle and survive it. Stay in my fleet!!!!!

 

capable ship (class 3 ship) A commando ship like the campaignship that will force your class 3 to attack again Attack/life: 0/100 Manpower: 350 Buildingtime: 12 h human-Technology Battle details: fights (battle engine syntax: f) lets all ships in your fleet fight again, that were not destroyed battlemessage: "capable ship distracts the fleet. all remaining ships reassemble for another strike after ... ships" (battle engine syntax: restart,self,capable ship distracts the fleet. all remaining ships reassemble for another strike after) modifies LP by -5000 of all capable ships in your own fleet in class 3, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect. battlemessage: "capable ship losses: ... ships" (battle engine syntax: obliterate,self,all,3,capable ship,capable ship losses:) self destructs! (battle engine syntax: sd)   —> Forum Topic about this ship KEPcH: Isn't 350mp a bit much for a ship that will self-destruct and that is useless if it attacks first. I can accept the sd part, but 350mp... how about 250? Or 350 without self-destruct?

 

doomstar (class 4 ship) This ship has a core that can create a black hole which destroys the doomstar and gulps all ships of class 1, 2 and 3 on both sides. (caution! self destruction!) Attack/life: 0/900 Manpower: 1850 Researchtime: 2 d Buildingtime: 22 h e-ray-Technology Needed research: gravity Battle details: modifies LP by -5000 of all ships of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in class 1, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect. (battle engine syntax: obliterate,enemy,all,1,all) modifies LP by -5000 of all ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in class 1, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect. (battle engine syntax: obliterate,self,all,1,all) modifies LP by -5000 of all ships of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in class 2, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect. (battle engine syntax: obliterate,enemy,all,2,all) modifies LP by -5000 of all ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in class 2, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect. (battle engine syntax: obliterate,self,all,2,all) modifies LP by -5000 of all ships of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in class 3, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect. (battle engine syntax: obliterate,enemy,all,3,all) modifies LP by -5000 of all ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in class 3, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect. (battle engine syntax: obliterate,self,all,3,all) self destructs! battlemessage: "doomstar creates a black hole that swallows all ships of class 1 to 3" (battle engine syntax: sd,doomstar creates a black hole that swallows all ships of class 1 to 3,n)   —> Forum Topic about this ship C.Kork: okokok. doomstar=BOOM class 1+2+3. so here's my question. if i have a mothership and 2 doomstars and attack another player, would both doomstars blow up or would one be left for the next battle since there won't be any class 1+2+3 ships left??!!?? just wondering. JaM: A battle ends when 1 of these 2 rules: 1 You OR your enemy doesn't have a ship left in the class that is fighting. 2 You AND your enemy doesn't have a ship left in the class that is fighting that CAN fight. If you fight against enemy's class 4 then then the second doomstar will blow up. If you fight against enemy's class 1,2,3 then not. darklim: What question is that? Two Doomstars!!! The Doomstars destroy all classes except class 4 LOL!!!! C.Kork: it's for the case that you want to fight 2 different fleets which are close to each other. if one would survive, you could use it in a second attack. darklim: 2300 x 2= 4600 + 320 = 4920 You base will be an easy target But the Doomstar is the best defender JaM: Another nice idea is to make a fleet with 1 mantis and no other ships. When you base is attacked the enemy will lose all class 4 ships. limsky: Jam - your nice idea cost you 350-320 =30 points. JaM: And for 30 points it will make sure the enemy doesn't move his fleet. This is by the way IF the enemy has only a mothership. For example a time slipper, major reconstructor, doomstar, pirate flagship, shadow star will gain points. darklim: Destroy the fleet slowly... Will make point And have a fleet that can destroy one Mothership to avoid the Mothership take out the ships You will got a lot of easy points Rubens: hey, for the newbies, (what is noob) the doomstar blow up!!! you cant put 2 in the same fleet beacuse you lose 2300 ptos, @jam:every time you fight vs class 4 , the first doom blow up vs class 1 and then vs class4 you lose the second!!!! @darklim if you have 1 1 1 in your base you base isnt vulenrable, and if you can build dooms also hol fleet carriers, put 1 or 2 of these in your base and you are secure. but i already say dont 2 dooms in a fleet so use clone labs, or a core driver fleetleader: I was just wondering if doomstar blows everthing up at begging or end of battle. Also 2 doom stars would both blow up? mackman: shoots in the class 4 battle and about 2 dooms I never used 2 at one time so dont know about that. fleetleader: So 900 fighters aginst a doomstar, the fighters would win? Weylyn: No, if it fights, it explodes. Even one figher would win, as it would blow up that single fighter, wasting all that manpower. mackman: As long as the MP of your fleet does not exceed the mp of the doom fleet you will win. blackmagic: Man people should look at the manuel more often. It shows the MP and it capabilities. The rest is logic :)20 fleetleader: Srry just wanted to know if you could disable it limsky: Yes just recycle at your base. fleetleader: I mean enmey doomstar doomstar: The only way to destroy a Doomstar is with a Mantis, assuming you have the first attack. :smile:3 Achilles: "The only way to destroy a Doomstar is with a Mantis, assuming you have the first attack." Think again. steven1982: Hehe yes, if a doomstar fights a fleet with only a mothership it will fire, so BOOOM! but it does not effect class 4, so you still have your mothership, and 2300 points extra for the doomstar :grin: Dutchbatter: And if someone is so stupid to use a doomstar and all mp for other ships in 1 fleet, just use 1 1 1 and mothership in your fleet and you will score more than 2300 points.

 

lowrider (class 4 ship) A fast warp ship with a semi-instable warp core. If a lowrider is involved in a battle, it will obliterate all class 3 and all other class 4 ships in your fleet. Attack/life: 0/200 Manpower: 400 Speed: warp 7 Researchtime: 1 d Buildingtime: 12 h human-Technology Needed research: gravity Battle details: modifies LP by -5000 of all ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in class 3, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect. battlemessage: "lowrider warp core breach obliterates in class 3: ... ships" (battle engine syntax: obliterate,self,all,3,all,lowrider warp core breach obliterates in class 3:) modifies LP by -5000 of all ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in class 4, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect. battlemessage: "lowrider warp core breach obliterates in class 4: ... ships" (battle engine syntax: obliterate,self,all,4,all,lowrider warp core breach obliterates in class 4:)   —> Forum Topic about this ship Captain Starlight: This is a curious ship. what happens, when there is a class2 v 3 battle, and your class 2 has holoclones, do they fight or are they self destructed??. I think Black Mobile would want this ship very much. DaBlackMoB: like this: http://www.datsunworld.com/330/z-watf3b.gif low n slow let's take a look inside: http://www.nmsu.edu/~ucomm/Releases/1999/sept99/parsons02.jpg :wink: limsky: Compared to Carrier which has warp of 1 this ship is too fast.Can the ship be carried by the mothership as a lifecraft? Someone may suggest a similar ship that can carry only class 2 and class 3 ships. Captain Starlight: Hey, a liferaft, theres an idea!!! Captain Starlight: I just submitted a ship, using the lowrider as a liferaft, and @admin sorry, I forgot the trigger. Oops Lord Philemon: That's actually a cool ship :smile: The only thing is: -the enemy needs only 1 class 1, 1 class 2 and 3 class 3 ships to destroy the lowrider -Using the syntax like it is shown you could actually have class 3 ships in it, only in a battle they would be destroyed. IceZoo: ". if a lowrider is involved in a battle, it will obliterate all class 3 and all other class 4 ships in your fleet." What about the enemy's fleet?ill it obliterate the class 3 and 4 ships too? darklim: That is a suicide ship. adamx17: The use for this ship is rapid deployment of class 1 and 2. darklim: Fast deployment of class 1 and class 2. Interesting Will be added to my fleet configuration _________________ One planet is habited by E-rays, Human, Kazuuula, Nanite, Mycilloid. These race is ruled by the Evil Dark Lord. Named Dark Lim who hate cheat, and make the race to fight, called hi empire Dark Caracas. Dark Lim of Dark Caracas will fight multi. Rubens: LOL the only person can explain this is adamx17. Seee with a fllet with a lot of class 1 and class 2 with only 1 cruser u can use this ship. because maybe u always lose the crusero but with the lowrider, u can send ur fleet and her arrive more fast and in the battle u no lose point. the problem is cant be used twice time. of coure yes but if u fight class 2 vs class 2 is stupid!!, maybe 4000 kamikazes.. aprox!!!!!! so u can send the fleet with the lowrider and arrive fast but have 80 mp more of the mothership, the problem is if is detsroyed, because if u cant have cruseros, u always need another mother, if is used with a pirtae flague ship is good so u can have 3 battles in a day. Lou of East from West: So, "if a lowrider is involved in a battle" that means u have to shoot on it, for instance if ms attack lowraider, nothin happen? (standard class 4 battle) But Timesliper kills shit in him? JaM: If a class 4 battle happens it will destroy your whole fleet because a battle stop when all ships got their turn of either fleets are destroyed. So by a ms vs lowrider, the lowrider will get his turn and will destroy class 3. Lou of East from West: and not killing him self (class 4)? JaM: I don't think so. It oliberates all class 4 ships except itself of course. Look at the commando fighter: it kills all commando fighters and self destruct. But I never used a lowrider. darklim: It kill everything of class 3 and class 4 except itself But is a nice ship We are Bjork: The lowrider can carry class 3, but if it is involved in a battle you lose all class 3 and 4. So if you have one cruiser and the fleet fights you lose your class 3 and 4. Warning, do not leave in base!!! Metody I The Evil: And to think that long ago I met someone who used it to pull a Doomstar... Lucky bastard - the Doomstar went off killing my poor cruiser, before the lowrdirer could destroy it :lol: darklim: " On 2003-12-04 09:25, Metody I The Evil wrote: And to think that long ago I met someone who used it to pull a Doomstar... Lucky bastard - the Doomstar went off killing my poor cruiser, before the lowrdirer could destroy it :lol: " An Fast and Deadly Doomstar, because the Lowrider destroy the ships in class 4 battle And the Doomstar fight in class 1 Metody I The Evil: So, I think that you're trying to tell us that when class4 fights, it's not a class4 fight :grin: I couldn't agree more, I always thought that only destroyers vs destroyers is a class4 fight... :lol: Sheesh... And, you could check out the penguin-recycle BR /since u're digging up old topics and stuff :wink: /, to see that when class4 fights, it's a class4 fight :lol:

 

apostate sphere (class 4 ship) This gigantic sphere is built by the Dominion of the Travellers, an apostate fraction of the travellers, that decided to take care of the universe themself. They destroy whole planets and enslave their population. Attack/life: 10000/50000 Speed: transwarp 100 It has a cloaking device Researchtime: 2 d Buildingtime: 730 d traveller-Technology Battle details: modifies LP by -5000 of all ships of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in the same class, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect. battlemessage: "the end"                and: "apostate shere destroyed ... ships" (battle engine syntax: obliterate,enemy,all,this,all,apostate shere destroyed,p,the end) is immune against the destruction effect (battle engine syntax: trigger_0_destroy) cannot be obliterated (battle engine syntax: trigger_0_obli) is immune against the kill effect (battle engine syntax: trigger_0_kill) if the ship is jammed, the initiative will not go back to the enemy immediately (battle engine syntax: trigger_-_jam)   —> Forum Topic about this ship Lou of East from West: And that is Moby Dick! darklim: YOU CAN'T ESCAPE!!! :)16 masterp: darklim spamming to death :)24 :)25 steven1982: :sad: :sad: my bounty hunters will have no effect on that, there goes my old account :sad: We are Bjork: I suppose assimilation is out of the question :wink: mackman: That damn ship cheated me out of 4000 points!!!Dont leave your fleets at home you will lose major points!!! JaM: I didn't lose anything. A philosophy: If you don't have anything you can't lose anything So recycle all your ships at the end. And you lose nothing (not even the 1000 points for shipyard and recycle building) Ransack: a holo clone ship can destroy that thing steven1982: I still have my fleets wandering around because they were not at my base at the time, for the rest i didn't lose a point. Dutchbatter: I want to build that ship too. So admin if you read this, i would please like to build that ship too. omarrus: "a holo clone ship can destroy that thing" thats cool, but explain Metody I The Evil: Unfortunatelly, won't work... 'cause that has 10000 life and does only 5000 damage... So, even if the holo-clone-ship gets its turn, and turns itself into that.... still won't have enough damage to wipe it out :wink: Ransack: melody if the holoclone shot become the clone of target ship and shoot ok he become on 10000ap/10000lp and deal 10000 damage more -5000, or you forgot that he still figth... he wipe out is have hes turn firts Rubens: the shield generator can survive at this ship? Metody I The Evil: Hmmm... LoL well it will work, really didn't see that it was 10000/10000... Though, I wonder whether the clone immediately takes it's turn or the attack happens afterwards, e.g. 1.) holo-clone turns into that, then fires or 2.) holo-clone turns into that the apostate sphere fires and destroys the clone. P.s. guys... don't you know the letter T when you see it? It differs somewhat from L :lol: darkwolf: and what about a couple (a lot) of mantis?? will this ship destroy everthing at the first shot or we have the chance to fire a couple of time before its starts to obliterate the planet?!?? :smile: :smile:5 Metody I The Evil: That's the problem - we only have one shot before it wipes out the entire fleet, planet, you name it As for the SG, theoretically, it will survive, but what is the point? You still loose the planet and won't kill the ship :???: The Travellers: unfortunately we have to say that the dominion is still not under control. one brave civilisation once managed to destroy their enormous apostate shere but now they managed to create an even bigger ship with 50000 lifepoints. spacetrace: lol BladeTech: how was it destroyed? besides it has 0 mp so you don't get points do you? Lou of East from West: Yes, tell us name of that Hunter? spacetrace: a real dragonslayer :cool: darklim: I see one of those in my DSP It are in the planet of my old target... kamekaze6: how long does it stay on the planet??? Kyllyall: Mind if i take it for a test drive? :)23 Dutchbatter: After me. You already on a list for testdrivers? Kyllyall: :grin: no im on top of the list.... all i need is the coords of those on the list below me Dutchbatter: What coords you need? LOL :smile: BladeTech: i don't really understand the syntax commands for this ship (or any ship for that matter. i never understood all those commands and crap so plz explain that to me) tiemen: " On 2004-05-11 23:45, BladeTech wrote: i don't really understand the syntax commands for this ship (or any ship for that matter. i never understood all those commands and crap so plz explain that to me) " I don't understand all of the syntaxes... but in this case it's quite simple. The ship goes: "BANG" You go: "KABOOM" And you have to start all over. Nuff said?:P BTW... why don't smileys appear in my posts? _________________ "Once upon a midnight dreary, there he pondered, weak and weary, over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore. And his eyes had all the seeming of a student's that is reading, reading through one too many bindings of long-outdated bore.” BladeTech: well thanx anyway. i was just wondering so i could see if there were ne possible counters Liderant: your fleet 2 fights against fleet 1 from The Dominion of The Travellers at xxx/xxx/xx 23.05 10:56:27 - your fleet arrived 23.05 21:52:59 - the enemy fleet arrived yours: 20 ships class 1: 14 fighters (1/1, 1 MP) class 2: 1 destroyer (10/10, 8 MP) class 3: 4 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP) class 4: 1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP) enemy: 1 ship class 4: 1 apostate sphere (10000/50000, 1000000 MP) - click here to see the complete battlereport - summary: your losses: class 1: 1 fighter class 2: 1 destroyer class 3: 4 cruisers class 4: 1 mothership enemy losses: - score: -569 what i dont understand is why didnt i lose my 14 fighters??? that means that it can be destroyed by many kamiz? darklim: I don't think that BladeTech: that happened to me too!! except with bigger fleet!! darklim: That ship seem to be too powerful Yeah, take turn first and kill everything. You cannot escape Note: Fleet with more MP will start the attack first :grin: Zamprano: I think that with some comando fighters and kamikazes, it should be posible to take out that ship... and you would get 1.000.000 points!!!! WOW!! I can't wait to have it come to my planet.... :wink: JaM: NO because once it gets its turn it OLIBERATES EVERYTHING Zamprano: Hmmm.... pity... anyway, it would be nice to blow that ship up... jellez: 200 fighters can destroy that ship so what Nemesis: 200 fighters??? jellez: Yeah jellez: you now fast and small that that ship can't hit that fighters but your fighters can destroy that ship but only if that ship has very slow defense systems doomstar: What planet are you from Jellez? Have you read any of the comments by experience players? Have you read the battle syntax of the ship? Idiot. :)11 :)11 :)11 :)11 darklim: Like Jam say: "NO because once it gets its turn it OLIBERATES EVERYTHING" And i say: "Note: Fleet with more MP will start the attack first" So you don't have chance to win JaM: " On 2004-07-08 16:00, darklim wrote: "Note: Fleet with more MP will start the attack first" " No that is decided randomly. BladeTech: no you can't win against it!! Liderant: so, may question is still on feets, what happend to those 14 fighters???? was that a bug??? or did the sphere had mercy for them???? blackmagic: Oh poor lost souls =) I will try to give my theroy on this ship from what i already know from looking at the battle syntax. Ok 1) the battle syntax "f" gives it's turn to fight, which uses it AP. Of course you ship is destroyed. BUT!!!! You must remember that a ship can only fire once.. I haven't fought this ship yet so Don't YELL AT ME about miss information. I would appreciate if you give entire battle reports =) 2) All those triggers are nothing. All it really says is that any ship that trys to modify it gets destroyed. 3) Now this is where i'm not too sure. The thing about obliterate is a bit confusing. It says to obliterate everything in everything in every class. So from the looks of it... you can't escape this ship unless you have something that is immune to obliterate, which "DOES not EXIST" LOL your screwed I think the admins should make it so that the obliterate only occurs after the class4 battle (event,4,.......) so that people have a chance to try and destror it, but thats their choice. Maybe they can make the LP 8000 and replace the obliterate with "event" =) MOE FUN!! =) BladeTech: well the point probably was to make it indestructible... blackmagic: Well where's the fun in that? LOL BladeTech: i believe there is no fun in fighting the sphere Liderant: all the teories have fallen!! Aelon destroyed this ship! this has to be a bug!! why? because he only lost 1 ship with 1 mp-----> 999999 points i want some explanation! anyhow, how many apostate sphere exist? mackman: maybe its like the lottery :smile: he must have shit when he seen that br :lol: BladeTech: heck yea. from zero to hero...lol jk...but yea, 999999 in one battle!?!? doomstar: That alot of points, care to share some Aeleon? :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: BladeTech: hahaha too bad it was a bug. i wanted points too!! blackmagic: I bet you would but now i don't see the point in this topic cause now we know once and for all this ship can't be killed =) BladeTech: no most of us prolie realized that it was SUPPOSED to be indestructible anyways....thre are alot of planets waiting to be deleted but still not...guess it'll take a while for the dominion to rebuild eh? darklim: Or the Dominion can build those beast (can't find another name :grin: ) in just 1 minutes?! 5th special forces: this ship isnt fair, you can obliterate an entire fleet and not take any casualties. this ship isnt fair to most players and on top of that, it has 0 mp. Weylyn: You miss the point man. We can't build this, the admin can. When we end our evolution, this ship drops by and destroys the planet; game over. This is the end-of-round-ship, it's supposed to unfair. We do enjoy ourselves thinking up ways to kill it though. Rubens: an answer to my self NO the shield generator can survive, cuz hasnt be touched, LoL 2- Nobody said that ransack find the way to destroy it, and nobody gave him some pts, i mean he beat the admin! now it is imposible but @bladetech triger means like inmune. If u want to jam it like i just thought u can cuz it has that triger. So you cant jam it and then attack @everybody dont lie, that is not game over, only ur planet is gone, u can keep your fleet but u cant make new ships, what is important is that u can keep atacking and make pts till your fleets are gone. 3 i know that this dosnt kill it, but it can run away... pirate ship, can it survive?? if you steal it you can keep it for other class.? Like a pirate ship and a mantis?? zzz: That thigns stupied al the adminds want to do is piss us off!!!!! Rubens: again to me! no rubens you cant, the mantis dont make nay effect, ( i forgot some factorS) So? the pirate ship can survive? @zzz. Do u know how to play this game? you have been a lot influenced, take it easy, the admin dosnt want to piss you off they are just taking your planet when you reached the 100% because is a rule. YOU JERK, u also can run away and still making pts with your fleet(@admin wich is bad!! is not fair shade almost get more score than box of pandora((borg of colectivity))Also the admin dosnt get points, h can not be in the top I should help but you are IDIOT so if i am right i have to explain it (amnother long post) There was a time when you had to play ST in a round style( i hopre you understand what a round is) then you take the break when the time is off, the admin fix everything, put the best players in the hall of the fame of the forum and the round start again 4 weeks later.(Check the hall of the fame) Now is a evolution style, no ending! so for be sure that you can not build more ships after your time expired they created this ships. We(experienced people) are talking about this just for find a mistake by the admin and win that ship. But we all know it is impossible, if you can destroy it, they will fix it again. and you wont have any point. (I can keep looking other topic) The TO page is decent, truinvirate is not good enough, but give an award to TO for that page? how awfull is ugly, dosnt have a lot of things, anyway congratulations i mean i am an ex-member TO. Sorry but i was one of the FIRST i sawTO grow up, with shade in the bottom( i won u a lot of times) and nobod in the top ten, just an alliace. Congratulations to the players Really nice desxriptions! KEPcH: please, dude, learn to write. And watch who you attack. Shade: Wow Rubens you lieing little fucking bitch.... i have never had a retarded illiterate dickhead like yourself in my alliance.... You saw TO grow up? don't pretend you know anything about us you lieing little fuck. And this is the best part, when i was at the at the bottom? Bitch i was never at the bottom, And you damn sure as fuck have never beaten me "many times"... No one has... the few that have dared to attack me, have been made to regret it ten fold. I'm sick of your bullshit, since you've come back to the forum you've done nothing but talk shit about me and TO.. Envy is a motherfucker, live with it. Your lies are not welcome here. do us all a favor and fuck off. no one understands a damn word you say anyway boy... Shade: And wtf i almost scored more than wizz by running away with my fleet??? I didn't score single point after 100%, simply becuase it is not possible. You trully are an idiot, you can't read, write or contemplate anything can you? You sad little bastard.. I know "special" people like yourself deserve freedom of speech too but please save your nonesense and lies for the professionals at the hospitals Ruben.. KEPcH: Go, go, go, go Shade! Rubens: I am not gonna insult u because you dont deserve it, you are good player, but you dont deserve be seen as the best. I just want people remember old times. Yes you were int he bottom, once you were in the top and you fall position by position and you get away from the top, that time othe to players did the same, but you and they didnt lose that much points just the others were getting more points. You get like 3k pts after the evolution, beacuse you were in the hall of fame and then you win more pts. Am i lieing? Bullshits of course it is possible! I am not envy, and i dont hate TO i asked you when i start if i could join in and you didnt want me, well nobody answered me. I dont care if you speak better than me, or maybe write. but i am not american or british and i never did a course, i just learn by my self... i think it is enough, i dont need to know a lot more.BTW i am 8 years young than u, maybe that can explain something. Jazzy challeged me, but just with words no with battles LoL, so i will challenge you, this a real chalenge. Look in your account(the old one) all your battles in negative and put them here, and i will put mines here(my positive) look them and you will see that someone will match. You only take me 500 pts by a building, in real battles you never won me. Just do it and lets see. didnt i was in your alliance?? Maybe the name aquarium remembers something, I dont say that i am one of the betters players, but thanks to my score you get the second or the 1º place in one jump.Now do you remembeR?.. KEPcH: LOL I remember you now. And now I have to laugh even harder LMAO. Listen lil boy, I joined TO when it was created for the FIRST time after 1 month or 2, I think. Shade was already captain and at that time I didn't see anything of you. It's true that you were in our alliance a round or two ago but your memory really stinks if you think Shade was ever at the bottom, or any of our TO family. But: "i just learn by my self... i think it is enough, i dont need to know a lot more" It's nice that you learn everything yourself, but it would be nicer if everyone could understand what you're writin. So long sucker! zzz: Wel if the apostate sphere blows me up once my evo's 100% why dosen't it say that in the manual? Rubens: because dosnt appear :grin: just is a old thing in a new style so you wont know it, that is why you should keep your fleets away from your base near the 100% because you can earn points later but most important is that you dont lose points if you dont attack the apostate. Have fun of me kepch i know other 2 idioms...perfectly And ok maybe not at the bottom, i did a MISTAKE but yes you were falling down (You dont have memory either) I admit my mistake but you didnt say anything about what i said. Is true or false, that when i become a member of TO we go up one position? lamently graph stats dont get that far...i dont remember if it was 3º to 2º or 2º to 1º but there was a change(no thanks to me thanks to my score, and well other player that joins in TO days before) Shade: "You get like 3k pts after the evolution, beacuse you were in the hall of fame and then you win more pts. Am i lieing? Bullshits of course it is possible! " Wow dude.. yes you are lieing. When i was 98% Evolotion i had exactly 151582 score. In my final 2 days, i made a series of mistakes and didn't score a single point. thus screwing up my destiny of beating your great "box of pandora" in score. I then lost 1000 to the dominion when they visited me at 100% and my score rested at 150582. where on earth you get this bullshit that i carried on scoring is beyond me. And Aquarium.... hah... Yes i remember you now. You must of been the worst TO member we ever had. If i remember correctly, and i do. You did not participate in the alliance at all, never answered round messages, provided no help to anyone.. no nothing.. i guess that's why i didn't know you, because you were smarter back then and didn't open your ugly foul mouth. Your minor score was your only levarage in a time that TO was not so active. and why the hell are you going on about your score?? lol 108. M. Aquarium of Love at the sea 06/29/2004 27810 LOL... not exactly something to brag about my dear. oh christ... i just read.. you're 8 years younger than me?? rofl... dude.. so you're 14? haha OK i'm not even gonna bother argueing with this child any longer!! Rubens: yes, i saw your page so i am 14... but my score isnt good for a teenager.... in that time 13 :)23 :)23. Yes i wasnt so active that time, and i was like a bad player in the last days, i made stupid fleets my score got to 35k and i go down. My FIRST score in round style was 70k lol maybe that means something, of course i am not presuming of my 25k, but you needed 20k to go up in the top alliances and i gave to all you. Say it!!!!! BTW this teenager beat u! now that you remember me you can say it... i won you, and fairly cuz i saw you active and you knew that i was attacking you of course i was advantage because my fleet was so perfect, i just destroy your mother with 4time slipper, but you didnt knew it that i had a pirate flagship... well whatever you remember my fleet and you know how good or bad it was. I never participate in big alliance, because give my BR means give my strategy, but in small ones i do share cuz i feel more secure. Anyway, in evolution style an alliance only means help. And sorry but i wasnt one of the worst players... in that time there were somepeople really bad, well at least with bad score(like steven now) but i helped a lot. COME ON i remember perfectly that you have 148k and i saw you in the hall of fame... i got surprised because i knew that you were a good player but not that you were the best in that moment, then i saw 151000 and then 150k. You were in the hall of fame all the time!!!! Maybe you could get mote points than borg, well wizz, but you know is diferent, he style of play was excelent, you had TO in that moment, but he play alone in the blac hole without any alliance, beating new and veterans player, he was almost perfect. He knew that he was going to lose 1000 pts but he won 5k after that battle... amazing. I admit that TO is a very good alliance, but plz who can beats Space Mercenaries or AoD they made an style. nanus: "unfortunately we have to say that the dominion is still not under control. one brave civilisation once managed to destroy their enormous apostate shere but now they managed to create an even bigger ship with 50000 lifepoints." to quote the end of Spaceballs , when they make fun of Planet Of The Apes : Ape #1: "Spaceballs." Ape #2: "S.hit. There goes the planet." ;-)