Taking out multi accounts

[Mighty]

Now as many of you know I don't play this game how ever I have noticed they are many multi players and even more players profiting from this multi hunting business

Now I also happen to know that admin has a pretty nice multi hunting script, from where they can compare accounts based on many aspects and try to figure out if they are multi are not..

I also know they are always alot of cases that are left unsolved for a while even after reported.

I understand that it takes time to find and delete multi players and even tan they come back..

I believe admin should setup and a group of people who would help them in hunting these multies...

I also happen to know that one of sub futures of the multi finder is that you can see full battle reports..

I belive this should be unaccessible to these players who help admin so the game stays fairs..

I belive there should be more of a rule for players who are interested to help better this game...

unlike many other online games I have noticed that in past 6 years space trace has limited the extend it lets players help them in administrating the game to bare minimum of moderating the forums and the channel...

I believe players can be of further help to admin if they are given a chance.. and by doing so they will help improve the game and more players will be interested to prove they are good, fair, and honest veterans so they could also have a chance to help out...


I know people are interested! why not use em? (i still remember a certain email i red written by a vet trying to convince admin to let him be a part of em)

just my 2 cents
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[adrninistrator]

I find it funny that one we caught multying and hacking on many an occasion is trying to help us against his own kind. Hypocrite

[Mighty]

Thats how it always works

most of IT securities are x hackers
Most of casino securities are ex cheaters
alot of cops are old crooks

really it helps when you know how the system works

now you could have a conversation about how you think what i am suggesting is not good.. but i guess you rather just trow out a word and be done with it
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[Knight of Truth]

I believe that this Might help.

As long as anyone who joins has not multieed in the pas 6 monts. Or a year. or whatever.


Multi's are getting a bit out of hand. King empror is still running loose, and now he kindof confessed, by just using motherships. We are making a lot of points of of him.


I believe Mighty is not multting currently. I mean, I multied. But you dont keep whining about that.

P.S: although my multieing didnt take long enough to discover.
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[mjx1]

lol mighty talking about multies this makes me laugh
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[Sparks]

Multis, I don’t know…sigh... this discussion has been revolving all through the life of ST .

Firstly I must say I think multis who use their cheating tactics to just get on the leader board are pathetic and it doesn’t work anyway.

But they have been the cling-ons on the underbelly of ST forever, and I doubt they can ever be eradicated fully.

I must admit in the past that on passing, with a remnant of a fleet, near a multi I may know of, I have taken a detour to take a few points once or twice but u soon realize that it’s not worth it. You can gain more points from fighting multiple opponents more often.

So multiple accounts (‘ban of’ being the only rule in the game) are just impossible to control. Therefore the only way to control it is by making multi accounts unplayable.

If it is to be done we first need a compendium of how multis get the easy points, e.g.:

- multiple motherships
- keeping prophet at base
- building non attack ships like the mosquito, jammers, hammers, sporators…etc..

Next we need a way of either SURPPRESSING this activity or DESTROYING them.

Suppressing wise can be used simply for mothership building e.g. build more than 4 motherships and the base is destroyed! A warning will come on when the production + built motherships is more than 4. If 5 or more motherships are built it will cause an anomaly that destroys the base.

However I am not sure this tactic can be used for too many ship types (only things like the reconstructors etc)

Destroying multis are just as hard. First of all they must be found! So a way of tagging them must be produced than just saying ‘action has been taken’.

In game we already have an appropriate base destructor: Dominion of the Travellers!

Why cant a similar personage be used as a multi destroyer – Destructor of The Travellers!

We then only need a way to tag multi bases….some kind of Beacon perhaps?? A Traveller Beacon? When this beacon is set the base will be destroyed in a set time e.g. 12hrs. A message will be sent to them and they have this time to prove they are not a multi, and production interrupted. Also this beacon will cloak the base which will make multi hitters harder gain easy points.

Finally Destructor will be invincible and de-cloaks the base when it arrives and if any multi hitters arrive they themselves will be destroyed!

Ok my fingers have been flicking away at this so it is just a rough possibility but I think it could be improved upon.

So guys what do you think…..
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Darkfire

[Knight of Truth]

That would work.

But wont they just make some more acounts and continue on those?

Perhaps if your convicted of multiing, you cant make another acount for (insert amount here) days/weeks/months/years/minutes/whatever
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[Virus]

That Idea Is A Good One KoT.

However.

Some of the new players multi rather than learn the game.

But, eventually they discover playing fairly is much more fun and rewarding.

So they stop mutlying.

This is how most players begin.

Banning them, no matter if it's only for a day or so, may make the new players give up completely, thus giving spacetrace less new players.

I personally don't mind the multi's that use motherships etc to get easy points from farming or whatever. It doesn't really get them anywhere. Gangbanging enemies with multiple accounts does however. It's one thing to multi to ruin your own fun, but to ruin someone else's is completely unacceptable.
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[Vrictus]

this new admin...

im unconvinced of his professionalism

it is unlike an admin to post such a blunt comment.

now which player is hiding beneath this identity?

[Sparks]

To answer KoT and add to Viruses comment above:

My point exactly there is no way to stop multiple accounts only way is to make using those multi accounts harder/unplayable once detected.


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AND:

[Knight of Truth]

I just noticed, I overlooked the spelling mistake and thought it was the actual admin.

I am familiar with this fake though. Rubens and me the same...





If banning wont work, just delete the multiing acounts. None of this ''action is being taken'' *** but just deletion, giving a message:

Your acount has been deleted, as you have been convicted of multiing. If you want, you can make a new acount, but remember to play by the rules on that one, or you could be banned for a short period of time.


And the message if you get banned:

You have been convicted of multiing before, yet you have once again broken the rules. You can not make a new acount for XXX days. After you are no longer banned, you may make a new acount. If you are convicted for multiing for a third time, your acount will be banned for a longer time.


This way people are punished for multiing, and even spurred on to play by the rules. All acounts are deleted, so their punishment is to have all time spent on the acounts taken away.
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