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this vote will decide about the future of this invention: |
this can be added to the game |
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30% |
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it needs some changes but it is a good invention |
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10% |
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i will post the needed changes here |
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0% |
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no good try another one |
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60% |
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Total Votes : 10 |
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Noxus Vice Admiral


Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 493 Location: Michigan, USA
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Rubens wrote: | I didnt explain it cuz i think he wouldnt understand
It would be great if he reads all th epost of kame or BM...(btw nice to se eyou back)...well NO good... |
do you think im retarded? umm well if you didnt know im not... and uh i just added the destroys two class 1 ship syntax in there just because... i just wanted the point that it was a cheap class 3 ship with a semi decent attack..
also my math is right blackmagic.. it goes like this with a fleet of 120 battleship cruiser, mothership, and a major reconstructor.
enemy class 1 vs. your 120 class 3---> enemy losses 120 x 2 + 120 = 360
enemy class 2 vs. your little bit less than 120 class 3---> enemy losses <120
enemy class 3 vs. your less than 120---> enemy losses a less than 48
i just like sticking up for what i believe  _________________ -==Frag the Weak, Hurdle the Dead.==- |
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Noxus Vice Admiral


Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 493 Location: Michigan, USA
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Noxus wrote: |
do you think im ***? umm well if you didnt know im not... and uh i just added the destroys two class 1 ship syntax in there just because... i just wanted the point that it was a cheap class 3 ship with a semi decent attack.. |
wow... i can't believe ST sensors out R.E.T.A.R.D.E.D.... how gay _________________ -==Frag the Weak, Hurdle the Dead.==- |
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kamekaze6 Admiral


Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 1312 Location: Malta
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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I like it for one reason only: It is cannon fodder like the troika. It will take 100 aps which would otherwise be directed at other ships.
For example: you have 12 of these and 5 cruisers vs 10 cruisers
worst case scenario
you lose 5 cruisers and 5 battleships
enemy loses 4 cruisers.
score: -185
best case scenario
you lose 10 battle ships
enemy loses 10 cruisers
score: 350
It would most probably be somewhere in between those two values but the positive score is much more than the negative.
The downside to this ship is its vulnerability to the lower classes.
I like this ship I'm going to vote for it. |
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Rubens Admiral

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Posts: 1422
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Vote for it kame....but keep using the ship in scenarios vs other c3;)
Noxus i dont think that you are RE.T.A.RDED... I just thought that you dont accept the critic of other people just how you show me in your last post.
You still dont get why is this a bad ship so why would be usefull to keep giving you arguments when you reject them?...One thing is being like kame...oh well in this case i like it and blah blah the other one is like you that you think is a perfect ship. After some inventions rejected you still making another... |
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Bloodmagic Commander


Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 80
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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this ship is interesting.
however
very limited in use and outcome
an interesting tactic would be a spam fleet of these ships, although, a class 1 or 2 flieet would eat it alive.
say:
100 of these and 1 mother ship
against
4500 penguins and 1 mothership
takes 10 penguins to pull 1 of these down
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these only destroy 3 ships apiece
40mp to 3mp
not good
another scenario
40 of these and 1 mothership
vs
1000 eagles and 1 mothership
1 of these only destroys 1 eagle
while
20 eagles destroy 1 of these
meaning
40mp to 4mp
not good either.
and any decent alliance knows that to fight a battle you need at least one of each type of fleet.
that was abit long
sorry
but i say no good |
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Noxus Vice Admiral


Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 493 Location: Michigan, USA
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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hmmm... where should i start...
@Rubens--> ok i do hate to see my inventions shot down like a Japanese plane in Pearl Harbor and i do stand up for them.. but i stand up for my ships and for a good reason, you guys dont see the use of this ship as much as i do.. and i cant explain all of it.. and i appreciate your comments and i learn from all of them a lot... except from Connor, he never says anything but, and i quote, "NO GOOD"
@kame-->at least a couple of people like this ship and thanks for seeing my point of view also another use i found out another use for this ship, it is a cheap base defence for your base.. i would rather loss 25 points than a cruiser 60....
@bloodmagic--> who in the heck is going to have a fleet of 4500 penguins?!? same with a 1000 eagles? not thinking so, unless you were like psychic and knew that he had this fleet...
i thank you guys for your many critic comments and i learn from my mistakes, and i promise you all that i will have one probably every week  _________________ -==Frag the Weak, Hurdle the Dead.==- |
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Rubens Admiral

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Posts: 1422
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Dont worry noxus, i can understand that, i was a noob like you years ago...anyway lets jsut wait if this will be accepted by the admin.
About a fleet of 1000 eagles its quite possible considering is a standard fleet setup.
Grrettings |
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Bloodmagic Commander


Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 80
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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hmmm
noxus
you obviously haent fought many battles
iv only been playing for a few days
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i have encountered both those fleets
hence
why i used them as examples |
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lilkrnboi1018 Admiral

Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 1182 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:42 am Post subject: |
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4500 penguins is for base bashing _________________ PWNAGE!
Gotta love the Magnum (RE 0-3)
Or the Eagle (RE 3)
Leader of DEFIANCE
The grounds are soaked... with your blood! |
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Noxus Vice Admiral


Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 493 Location: Michigan, USA
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:39 am Post subject: |
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i know alot more than you think bloodmagic, although i am a n00b i have a brother that plays this and he has got a good grip on this game... and the person who used those fleets are probably multies... not many people would have that many of one ship, most experienced players know to find an even balance of each ship..
Multies tend to have fleets like these cause they have another one of their accounts work on a different area of the target..
Multies s.uc.k _________________ -==Frag the Weak, Hurdle the Dead.==- |
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Noxus Vice Admiral


Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 493 Location: Michigan, USA
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:41 am Post subject: |
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also.. how do you know if admin accepted/rejected the invention? _________________ -==Frag the Weak, Hurdle the Dead.==- |
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lilkrnboi1018 Admiral

Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 1182 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:15 am Post subject: |
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they'll tell u wether or not, but they reject like 95% inventions, and 4 % remaining are put on pre warp planets, 1% are implemented _________________ PWNAGE!
Gotta love the Magnum (RE 0-3)
Or the Eagle (RE 3)
Leader of DEFIANCE
The grounds are soaked... with your blood! |
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blackmagic Admiral


Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 1157 Location: GP
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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heheheh round 3500 penguins i once did have. Base bashing was on days where the people around you didnt' rebuild fast enuff and you got bored ^____^ BTW when i meant you math is wrong i meant the you don't always have 120 Battle Cruisers. I think it was something like..... lose 3, then lose 8 and lose 30 or something like that.
I can see a "few" applications for the ship, but rarely do you encounter fleets that are so widely distribuded among classes. Onli against a n00b would this fleet do well against. I usually bring a large class 1 2 or 3 and in tat case i could probably come out with 2000 points.
Lets even try a class1 fleet. I typically used a penguin, fighter, hammer, kami and commando fighter mix. Say the commando fighter activated early and penguins are now 8/1 that takes onli 5 to kill one BC. Hammer weakens them to 38 LP but that does no good. if the kami gets a chance i can kill it in 1 shot and lost onli 3 ships in the process with the additional 2 from the BC. Not bad huh? Thats mah secret combo ;P _________________ From the deepest depths of the Galaxy, a new
power is born.
Trained assassins ....Who strike down all who
oppose.
MASTERHUNTERS
~Blackmagic of Shadowball~
The Leader of the Best Alliance EVER!!! |
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