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Rubens
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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:53 am    Post subject:
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Rubens...that's a dirty trick....erase Conejo's In-game.


Wadda? I dont get that. Are you talking about me destroying Conejo? I dont think so. I have battle him just 3 times...when he hasnt been online in a long time. I havnt even touch his base and i keep advicing him and other people.
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Strange alliance you have

If you dont help your own members what use is your alliance then ?
If 1 member loses all battles your score won't rise .
You have to make clear to the attacker that your member is in an alliance which looks after his members and beat the hell out of him so he will think twice before he attacks a member of your alliance again


Greetz Connor


Once and again agree...but remember i think there is another use of the alliance without helping. TWGs, CTF and just being the alliance with more. pts
TWG=Transwarpgate usage
CTF= capture the flag of other alliances.

The point is that in those kind of alliances you dont have noob people wiling to learn as Conejo.

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LOL..Connor...I think Lilkrnboi does help his new players.
I think his pick of press agents may have delivered the wrong message out unfortunately.

Perhaps Lilkrnboi.... you should fire your press agent and rethink your recruitment campaign.
Good Luck just the same.


Again i dont get your message. Who is lilk(finally i write it good)'s press? I mean he is the one anouncing his alliance and he IS NOT helping the members of his own alliance.

@Lilk...i didnt get that either... was that sarcasm or what?
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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject:
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WTH are u guys talkin bout??? i'm helping jort right now!!!! we are all regrouping after all these sublte attacks on us, and wat r u all talking about!!!! WTH is with conejo??? isn't this recruitment? please stop spamming this, this topic was to recruit new members
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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject:
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Conejo is The Devil of the Hellhole.


What idiot gave you the idea that the deivil of a hellhole is conejo! You seriously need to hire new spies. I am the devil of a hellhole! You stupid idiot!
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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject:
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ugghhh Rubens idiot!!!!!

This is a really cool alliance to join, now we're taking care of idiots attacking us, loads of teamwork and a really cool leader and the most weird teammate ever -ME- and i'm going to stop now because this is becoming a very long sentence and it gets harder to read with every word so I am going to stop now, ok?
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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:01 pm    Post subject:
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Rubens wrote:
Conejo is The Devil of the Hellhole.


What idiot gave you the idea that the deivil of a hellhole is conejo! You seriously need to hire new spies. I am the devil of a hellhole! You stupid idiot!


Its quite impossible or you are such an idiot

First...if you want i can find it...COnejo put a BR that just happened to that player
After someone attacked the devil hole at the ST screen apeared "battle between xxx and toughie" of course i thought you may be that player but i SENDED you a pm that you didnt answer...where it was clearly specified that i thought that player was Conejo...
So you take advanage about him...But you still lost

In the other hand you are in the same alliance right? So your alliance dosnt defend you and you are are a noob...and a noob hated in the comunity.

@Lilk...well this is recruitment but i wont allow you to recruit more people when you cant give them basic things.

PD:Its really weird KOT, you are more time online in the forum that on the game;)and well now i get how easy i got those pts...they came from you
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject:
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wait... i ask, who gave the idea we did not protect our members, we were trying to attack black hole, and that was my primary concern, but then we started getting picked out and attacked, so we are protecting our members! who the @^#@&^@ said we didn't protect our members? wolves protect the pack and so do we!
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:39 am    Post subject:
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wait... i ask, who gave the idea we did not protect our members, we were trying to attack black hole, and that was my primary concern, but then we started getting picked out and attacked, so we are protecting our members! who the @^#@&^@ said we didn't protect our members? wolves protect the pack and so do we!


I said it.
I have the probes! they are here! you didnt protected KOT...PIRRIOT.

Enough disscusion i think...this is what i say
Noobs plz dont join this alliance which is not the best to give you the apropiate evolution of your game's knowledge...
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they didnt protect KOT because i didnt need protection. Now however they are waiting for a dsp of me, becasue rob attacked me.
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PD:Its really weird KOT, you are more time online in the forum that on the game;)and well now i get how easy i got those pts...they came from you


I am more online in tyhe forum because i check up on the game, nothing will hapen for like a hour, so i go to the foruim.

Im almost more minus then i was on my other acount.
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:53 am    Post subject: offtopic
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Conejo, once gave his coords and it's Devil's of hellhole base coordinates in game.
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject:
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who is conejo?

also, how can i protect KOT wen i am protectin som1 else, and every1 else is dealin with their own problems? we can't leave our own bases open for attack wen defending others if we are being attacked
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:04 pm    Post subject:
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Conejo is a new player. And it must have been some kind o typo, because that cant be.
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject:
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Rubens, you seem to be having an identity crisis. You're not an admin...

Whether Defiance does or does not protect its members is not your problem. But I bet Defiance does.

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I have the probes! they are here! you didnt protected KOT...PIRRIOT.

Ever heard of hasty generalisation? I'd think you've played ST long enough to know that fleets can't be in two places at the same time...

So, Rubens, I have nothing against you but if you can't stop talking shit about Defiance and if you can't start talking sense as can be expected from someone like you, please, stop spamming this topic in which you have nothing to do.

Btw, I'm back.
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:34 pm    Post subject:
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Rubens...that's a dirty trick....erase Conejo's In-game.


Wadda? I dont get that. Are you talking about me destroying Conejo? I dont think so. I have battle him just 3 times...when he hasnt been online in a long time. I havnt even touch his base and i keep advicing him and other people.
Just letting u know:D



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LOL..Connor...I think Lilkrnboi does help his new players.
I think his pick of press agents may have delivered the wrong message out unfortunately.

Perhaps Lilkrnboi.... you should fire your press agent and rethink your recruitment campaign.
Good Luck just the same.


Again i dont get your message. Who is lilk(finally i write it good)'s press? I mean he is the one anouncing his alliance and he IS NOT helping the members of his own alliance.



First ...Appologies to Lilkrnboi again for corrupting his recruitment post.

What I meant to convey was, It's not nice to make public someone's in game name and link them to forum name. In some cases it don't matter and in some it does. It should be up to the individual if they choose to make thier ingame name public knowledge.

The second part of my message was merely to point out to Lilkrnboi that if Knight of Truth is acting as MOC or in charge of recruitment (press agent), perhaps a different approach to recruiting could be explored rather than give the impression new players get "thrown to the wolves" without assistance from other alliance members.

I think the message that Defiance wanted to give was that there were few restrictions within thier alliance and members are free to attack who they please. I would be very suprised if new players were not given instruction on how to use a MTWG or how to attach comm lists or even how to provide basic protection for themselves. As Lilkrnboi pointed out, they do go to the aid of members in distress.

I will refrain from posting in this forum now and if anyone does not understand what I have just put down....
It's not important ...
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject:
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So, Rubens, I have nothing against you but if you can't stop talking *** about Defiance and if you can't start talking sense as can be expected from someone like you, please, stop spamming this topic in which you have nothing to do.

Btw, I'm back.

Hey you back me leaving
1 Rubens isn't spamming he just has an attitude that you can't stand, just as a lot of other people can not.
2 He is talking sense, the only thing you could say about him was that he is way to perfectionistic and doesn't like people making mistakes which he wouldn't be making himself.
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Hey you back me leaving

Duh!

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1 Rubens isn't spamming he just has an attitude that you can't stand, just as a lot of other people can not.
2 He is talking sense, the only thing you could say about him was that he is way to perfectionistic and doesn't like people making mistakes which he wouldn't be making himself.

Just read his posts.
As I said, he's not talking sense. He, and you too for that matter, should know that a probe result is NOT proof of how an alliance behaves.

And if he, on the grounds of that probe result, keeps insisting that an alliance does not help its members out while a person like Lilkrnboi tells him multiple times that it's not true I consider that spamming the topic. Not to mention acting like a GM...

As I previously said, I hold nothing against you Rubens, but plz stop this.
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Hey you back me leaving

Duh!

You hardly realised what I said............... I am leaving.
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Just read his posts.
As I said, he's not talking sense. He, and you too for that matter, should know that a probe result is NOT proof of how an alliance behaves.

He, and for that reason I support him, have other reasons to think that Defiance simply is not such a good alliance.
I know the leader, he really is a good guy. But for leading an alliance, he isn't fit for that.

I, and also Rubens, don't just judge from a probe result. We know what is happening in space, we know the members etc. etc. etc.
So don't talk down on us little brother.
Keeping members motivated, teaching people and whatever else I expect from a leader, he simply doesn't really have these things in him.

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Not to mention acting like a GM...

Like solely an admin has the privilege to criticise people. You've been here just as long as I have, and still you don't realise this is an open community? If you want to comment on somebody, you simply can.
There is near to zero moderation.
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject:
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I think what rubens is saying

makes perfect sense

this defiance 2, whatever you call it, isnt exactly the best place for n00bs

people like you araith, who understand the game should not praise this alliance with qualities it does not possess

but in all fairness

lets stop spamming defiance 2's recruitment topic

otherwise he might have to make another, then a third....like last time......possible a fourth.....

etc
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You hardly realised what I said............... I am leaving.

Oh I know that, no worries little brother.

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He, and for that reason I support him, have other reasons to think that Defiance simply is not such a good alliance.
I know the leader, he really is a good guy. But for leading an alliance, he isn't fit for that.

Defiance is not a top alliance I agree, but most alliances aren't. Caboose sure isn't a top player, but he's fine enough.
Besides, like other alliance leaders are 'fit for that'

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So don't talk down on us little brother.

Offended?

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Like solely an admin has the privilege to criticise people. You've been here just as long as I have, and still you don't realise this is an open community? If you want to comment on somebody, you simply can.
There is near to zero moderation.

I was not solely talking about critizing (though the critisism is IMO out of place), just read the following from Rubens. That's what I objected to:
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@Lilk...well this is recruitment but i wont allow you to recruit more people when you cant give them basic things.


Apparently you don't know all the members that much Robert (or however you call yourself nowadays). Vrictus, I don't praise Defiance with qualities it doesn't possess.
For a simple fact, I KNOW Caboose would and will aid his members, if he's capable and if he sees the need for it. I've spent around 4-5 months with him in an alliance, first leading the Long Fangs, then in Defiance (1). So believe me, I know.
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject:

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Rubens, you seem to be having an identity crisis. You're not an admin...

Whether Defiance does or does not protect its members is not your problem. But I bet Defiance does.

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I have the probes! they are here! you didnt protected KOT...PIRRIOT.

Ever heard of hasty generalisation? I'd think you've played ST long enough to know that fleets can't be in two places at the same time...

So, Rubens, I have nothing against you but if you can't stop talking *** about Defiance and if you can't start talking sense as can be expected from someone like you, please, stop spamming this topic in which you have nothing to do.

Btw, I'm back.


First of all..thanls to deluxe to remember your fight with COnejo...there you go, it is a probe! That goes to KOT and...to 1 of the quotes of Araith, when i said "probe" it wasnt refered to DSPs it goes further than that my friend

Then--GM means game master? Well you keep saying i have indetity problems...can i know why? As ROb said this is a comunity...I can criticize everbody, even so, i can on this topic to a bad side whenever i want(which i am not doing) and it dosnt mean i am the admin, i ask you to retract that comment or to give clear arguments that fundaments what you said.

This is a war game..everything that happen in MY universe is MY problem

I am not spamming..from what i know i have enough posts made to "spam"

Nice to see you back

@Vrictus...as delux said...Conejo already gave his coords, so i am not doing anything bad
@Rob so sad u are living

Ok Araith...sorry about the "i wont alow you to recruit more members"...but... thats the proposite...I, as an experimented player, will try to stop Noobs that join on Defiance because they dont give enough "things" to take care of a noob wiling to learn and become the best.
Of course, maybe someone will join the alliance by different reasons...and that would be a good thing to you.

of course there are worst alliances but i am just pointing this one...sorry...Anyway we can speak about type of alliance for a million of years so i wont say too much more.

Its just an opinion...New players..plz dont join in this alliance...Greetings.

As example of a good alliance that protects their member is PFIU (Or PFUI)

It wasnt 1 time...neither 2 nor 3...its a DSP..my fleets and other fleets that were keeping coming to the supously KOT's base...and nobody defense him...i dont think your fleets were defending other player in all the time

In short words, i am a bit NOT spamming but yes destroying the topic and an important point has been lost....is that...

I think KOT is Conejo!!!!!
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