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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 3:27 pm    Post subject: TLC Declares War On PFIU
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As promised in the ST history thread.... here is the topic to provide the players of ST the true nature of the TLC Alliance and what they stand for.


The PFIU is a new alliance with all new players in thier first or second evo with the exception on Metody, Mighty, myself and Big Mama.
Big Mama and myself have had about 3 or 4 evo's...certainly not veterans and we are the only recruits from TPC.
That is how TLC got the name "Noob Bashers" from constantly taking points from our easy targets.
Also finally, a declaration of war from TLC against PFIU. You should have told us earlier as we have maintained a non-first strike policy. We only retailiate when initially hit.
To actually highlight this claim, we, the PFIU attempted to train at the BH and were successful in holding it for a few weeks however the attacks by TLC were becoming to frequent to maintain a force at the hole.
I hereby charge TLC with starting this war and also of trying to exploit the
easier points gain that can be found from fighting new players.

Now that you have made this war declaration, we at PFIU will endeavour to defend our position by maintaining a close knit alliance and using all the skills we have learned so far.
We will not be intimidated by anyone and we do have the fortitude to withstand anything that TLC wishes to throw at us.
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Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... scary!
lol

Oh and just for the record you declared war on us... Gangbanging you were doing etc... so dont come playing innocent mate, so prepare to be put into minus

tee guess what .. your my new take out!
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This is no war. I didn't declare war, so we didn't declare war. Capice Evans
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ok dokie
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Evans do you ever talk anything ut shit.You were an back stabbing asshole when you joined us at TPC and your still king of the shit talking.Your members have been ganging us for that last 3 weeks,PLEASE do us 11111111 favor in this war,Keep your fucking whineing to yourslf.
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Evans do you ever talk anything ut ***.You were an back stabbing *** when you joined us at TPC and your still king of the *** talking.Your members have been ganging us for that last 3 weeks,PLEASE do us 11111111 favor in this war,Keep your fucking whineing to yourslf.


ganging?? How come it's noticed as ganging from the side of PFIU?? 3 players vs Evans, and not once.

As it seems war is getting closer and closer. The Council will look over this little party... Hearing from us soon, you will
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Hannibal, Evans is not the only culprit within your alliance. I have been getting reports of ganging from all our members. You may not be aware of it, however as leader, the responsibility still falls on you.
If you really want to conduct an internal investigation, I can provide ample documentation to prove my claims not only with Evans, but with other members.
I have my doubts about the true leadership within your alliance and you may be just a " Figurehead" however, are you willing to withdraw your forces ?

Do you realise this is the second time TLC have unjustly started mass attacks on PFIU members.

If you do have control, exercise it and withdraw and formally apologise to our members. At the moment, blood runs hot within the PFIU ranks and they demand retribution.
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Hannibal i thought you were the leader of those clowns ,i guess not if you dont know whats going on in your alliance.Read all the BR you will find you clowns have been ganging us allot long before we started.I guess the next time you need to know something about your alliance you can just ask Evans while your on your knees blowing him
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I dont like ''ganging''. But how do I know TLC was really ganging?

P.S: im not in TLC or PFIU
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I guess you don't know Toughie however, if you get to know the players, you will realize who to believe and who is full of B.S.
I will stand by my claims of being able to provide ample proof of these incidents happening.
Others will try to manipulate the data and provide false statements. It also, is part of the game stragety.
My biggest ally is my honesty and bluntness at which I sometimes use most cruely. Also, if I make an error in my claims, I am the first one to admit I made a mistake.
I am not going to fill the forum with a cronogical battle history that has taken place over the past 4-6 weeks however, I have looked at them very closely and certainly see I stand by my claims.
If you believe is your choice.
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If I may also add...in war everything goes...ganging, drunken orgies, anything you can think of to get an edge.
In casual warfare ( sounds funny) I don't think ganging is a honourabe way to make points or is attacking min defence bases.

Casual warfare should be done "up front"....no underhandness involved.
Not everyone agree's with me however
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Your not the only one that can do that face ya know .

Well then lets just say the only Gangbanging and needing of help has been coming from your side of the two alliances proof, well i have loads of it and please you must inform me of my great journeys out of the neighbourhood to your alliances bases because if it is true i am highly amazed as i havent been out of my base for the whole round well yes there were a couple of times when i attackedwilliam at the start of my round that was it. But you saying accusastions like " i have proof that Star Commander has been gangbibang my mebers " LoL

I didnt know that if all 3 of you attacked my base (T2, Big Mama, Plasmifie)

That it would be called gangbanging from my half, alls i had was the 2500mp fleets i held and a base with a 1 1 1 and each one of you got beaten, how dose that make you feel now Tee2 the truth has come out, i wernt gonna show you guys up but now i am, and please Tee2 your members lol they make good jokes and im reffering to you BigMama what was it your a no good player im gonna kill you or something along the lines of that, well i proved you wrong to didnt i? You after Tee2 attacked my base, and lost the Max of about 1200 then plasmifie lost 400 points if im not mistaken, then the next few days i was having battles with all 3 of you i would just have to build my ships up quitckly then saught them out into diffrent setups but then wah... you made a bad mistake guess what i got hold of your attackcode from a reliable source with in your alliance ahhh... how good that felt getting all the infomation i wanted, i even got the co-ords of your MTWG how good that was but by the time i would have gotten there if i attacked it it would have gone

So now lets move onto the other time, lets see, recent, oh yes!

BigMama at your base, well you know i would have been incoming after you took out my fleets so you thought lets get big mama into help me!
I tell you to make him move, you said you didnt but he didnt move, so in the end i ended up moving his fleets of that base my self by evaporating them into fin air!

The past few battles weve had i agree that new fleet of yours is a brillaint design but that fleet aint gonna last long against my anti-fleets you should know that by now watching and loosing all major the battles weve ever had!

And Plasmifie i like you, but you sure the hell need a better trainer then them, for instance i hope you dont mind, but your fleet today what you sent me would have got vaporised if you hit my intercptrs and plasmas im sorry but you really need a better teacher!
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ganging is part of another aspect of ST, notin wrong with it, but still, wat proof do u have of ganging?

also, since i don't like both sides of this war very much, i'll just not take part in any way
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Others will try to manipulate the data and provide false statements. It also, is part of the game stragety.


With Star Commander's last post, there lies a mediocre example of what I am trying to explain to some who are new at this game.

Propaganda is as much a part of this game as warfare.

When Astro Slayer moved to your alliance from us, he took with him information that could have proved dangerous to the PFIU.
Fortunately, you were unable to capitalize on your info, without tipping your hand and revealing your true agenda.
Of course that has all changed now and the only difference is we have 1 more known opponent in TLC.
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So...I would also like to add...It seems...when an alliance member visits my base and Evan's wants to attack...he considers it ganging.

Ganging is not attacking someone's base while there are 2 or 3 alliance members at it.
To gang means to send numerous fleets by 2 or more players to an opponents base and repeatedly hitting them.
You can't call it ganging when you want to attack me and there are alliance members present at my base....good grief....
Also....to keep the record straight, despite what you have told your alliance, we , at no time EVER ganged you in succession. Being hit by different players of the same alliance 24 hours apart certainly keeps you at home but does not constitute ganging. Yea ...it is irritating but you started the aggression. Never hit someone and not expect repercussions. The repercussions of yur actions is to be kept at home. Not from ganging but through a series of attacks by someone or anyone for that matter every 24 hours.
On 2 occassions you cryed about SBR hitting you and me hitting you as well.
This could be considered borderline ganging however no collusion was undertaken between the attacking parties and it was random so...is it ganging?
These are the incidents you speak of and you have the right to interupt it however you wish however, I still assure you, you directly are responsible for initiating this aggression and we at the PFIU are ready to war. We grow weary of you crying foul every time you lose a battle or attack an undefended base to "get even" for something you percieve as a direct assault against you through malicious intent.

In closing...cry your river...everyone knows you are full of BS including your alliance members. I respect thier responsibilty to assist in your defence however for the record...Let it be known...
You and you alone have fabricated a fictional story to persuade your team mates to go to war. This also tarnishes thier reputation as well however they only go by what you tell them and want them to believe.

I shall renounce my statment made to Hannibal earlier regarding a statment of appology and instead, ask for your disbarrment from the TLC alliance. This will clear up all the aggressive behaviour that TLC has exhibited to the PFIU and I am sure we can then live in peace or at least resume sanctioned battles under equal representation.
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You fucking swine

you and your friends gangbanged me

how dare you insult TLC

we are not noob bashers

whoever said that we are is a fool

now learn your place

go play with the traffic

yours truly
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Well Tee2,

Im looking like that now for one reason you have the guts to ask my alliance to disarm ? are you mad ?

Tee2 this doesnet stop our battles and yes you do understand the term gangbanging then, the only players ive had in my base with clearence this year were Link, Jort (1 sector away) and thats it of what i know of. So as you know the term of gangbanging may i remind you that " IF 3 OF YOU IE. BIG MAMA, U, PLASMIFIE ATTACK IN 4H PERIOUDS FROM EACH OTHER" that is gangbanging learn it practice it REMBER it!

So then what you gonna suggest now EVANS - BS or something like that because what i can make out from your posts i will have to show proof sometime soon on what this so called BS is wont i and i can do it will take me a while to search for the necessary componetnts needed but i can get them dont threat on that.
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You never noticed the battles hmm.
You never talked to Plasmifie hmm.
I have had conversations with Mr. Plasmifie and I must say, he is much nicer then you are, even thought we couldn't go through one door at the beginning.
He told me many times he was going to attack Evans.
Did I attack him? No!
Did someone else attack him? NO!
Did someone else showed up at Evans his base when 3 members of PFIU showed up? NO!

This proves the cowardice of you and youre man.
When plasmifie reads this, I don't mean you lad!

You say we are noobbashers, then you are the noobs. Denie is useless. Most of our battles are with PFIU, some with SBR/NZ/CBK(CBK = really spare) or attacks on lads, some starters(1 battle), some better players, who attacked us.
When someone keeps attacking you or doing things you don't like, then you attack.

Start getting you're alliance back on track. Youre work is a shame for Mighty. He started the alliance and how! It was good, it was exciting and battles where even. Now you guys attack in groups. You guys lose score.
This time I really feal sorry for Mighty. He doesn't deserve this
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Start getting you're alliance back on track. Youre work is a shame for Mighty. He started the alliance and how! It was good, it was exciting and battles where even. Now you guys attack in groups. You guys lose score.
This time I really feal sorry for Mighty. He doesn't deserve this


Hannibal I really don't agree with that comment... i'm going to tell you why

I made an alliance of new players and the not so good ones... my alliance managed to stand leg by leg with yours. diffrence being your alliance was made of already trained players and ARMADES!!! (damn it's hard keepin up wit that guy) so the fact that you guys are in the top is really nothing big.... your alliance at the moment is a collective of ) most of good players in spacetrace (some of them have learned from me ... you'r not doin anythin special kirbs!!! your just makin the game unfair for all other small alliance which have no chance against you guys.

in other hand i managed to take new players and make them the best... we were top alliance (brif period) and top 5 for most of PFIU's exsictance under my leadership. now T2 is a very respected leader but he does not care for points and he cares more to share his experties with his members and learn from them as he plays... i respect his decision and PFIU being a training alliance i do not see any shame in there low score or the fact that they are no challange against some TLC members 1 on 1.

they learn from battle no matter they lose or win. i rather they lose to the good players and learn tactics than they beat buncha noobs and get some points.

now as for them gangbanging... they might do it once or twice but i am sure they don't do it as often as your alliance members would.

T2 is a great leader and I respect his decisions and i think you should stop trying to make him look bad with your stupid comments and start respecting a man for his greatness

T2 teaches new players to become good and loyal spacetrace players... without his help or people like him (me ) and alliance like PFIU most of those players get bashed in first couple of days and leave the game.

what have you accomplished Hannibal? led an alliance full of exprianced players some of whom are alot better in this game than your self?

you havn't even done a good job as that! i have heard that your a disaster of a leader... Plasmifie left your alliance and joined mine due to your lack of Leadership talent and armedes is the real man behind TLC... your just a figure.... Most of the players have joined due to armedes's invitation and he is in part the big reson behind your alliances well being.

you are such a bad leader that when you had a nap with my alliance you were unable to keep your members attacking mine while none of my members even once broke our nap... your's did it to the extend that i decided it was just useless and i remember sending you a msg saying you are perhapsthe most useless leader i have dealed with in the history of spacetrace... and belive me in past 4 years i've dealt with enough leaders.


So Who should we be ashamed of?
T2 and PFIU who make it there primery goal to train and teach and bring up the intrest in the new players of spacetrace!

or

Hannibal whom figurtivly leads an alliance full of buncha points hungry already exprianced players known in the game who are so scared of fighting in there own level of expriance that have made an ally with every other in the game and just attack noobs and make points?! GREAT JOB GUYS!!!

I feel bad for you guys!! all you have made is anothe TO. What do you guys get off this? instead of trying to make your own alliance and teach some new players and leave your mark in spacetrace... you fools just shove your self in one big alliance so you go on top of the list and can say hey i am in #1 alliance..... and to keep your points up.. you pussys attack every noob you can find along the way

that is what makes me feel bad for you guys!!
you havn't achived anything if you allyed your self with 10 other people simmilar to yourself and made the top of the charts

you truly achived something when you start of nowhere and make your own alliance and bring in new players and teach them to become the next generation of great players...

you achive something when you make an alliance and in a month you make number #1 having 8 noobs and only 2 exprianced people in your alliance

you achive something when you become someones mentor...

so go ahead!! Gang up on the noobs, make some score... think your the best!
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Hannibal whom figurtivly leads an alliance full of buncha points hungry already exprianced players known in the game who are so scared of fighting in there own level of expriance that have made an ally with every other in the game and just attack noobs and make points?! GREAT JOB GUYS!!!

I feel bad for you guys!! all you have made is anothe TO. What do you guys get off this? instead of trying to make your own alliance and teach some new players and leave your mark in spacetrace... you fools just shove your self in one big alliance so you go on top of the list and can say hey i am in #1 alliance..... and to keep your points up.. you pussys attack every noob you can find along the way


First of all, after playing a few evo's as leader of TO-Academy I tried something else, succeeded, so that says something about me.
Second, we are not bashing noobs, but I won't react on this shitty story anymore.

Third I'm really flatterd that you say I created a second TO, but I'd rather wouldn't compare my alliance with TO, they were much better.
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