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christiano
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 Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:35 am Post subject: GNN News - controlled by TO ? |
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This is taken from the GNN report 17 sep 2005 22:22 :
| Quote: | Does this spell the end of an era for Total Ownage? Will our heroes survive to fight another day, or has their fuel finally run out?
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TO as heroes - is this neutral coverage of what is going on in the galaxy, or is it propaganda with the purpose of favoriting and helping one specific side of the confrontations going on, upholding the tyranny from TO ?
I will let you decide for yourself, but I am convinced: GNN is as neutral and independent as its name-brother CNN. Imaging a story about `our heroes´,the us-soldiers in Iraq !
I will hereby encourage the forming of a media, servicing the freedom fighters, the people who stands up against the TO, and fights the just cause, og getting rid og the imperialists ! We need a Al-Gaalactica to tell the other side of the story, and to bring a little more varied perspectives on the things going on.
You have to do it much better GNN ! |
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kamekaze6
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:50 am Post subject: |
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lol duke u re taking one line and saying it sTO supported what about when it was reportingICP hitting the triangle?
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Anon De Mouse
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:06 am Post subject: |
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I personally think that GNN reporting is good, HE is great!
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just as long as you dont *** out like you did against TO |
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Zeitgeist
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:09 am Post subject: |
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i am the emperor 
i think gnn makes a good job, i read them every day .
the press has to be independent and all alliances have the right ask for it !
but i have another question :
is gnn controlled by the administration ?
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kamekaze6
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:21 am Post subject: |
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U'd know  I personally think it s someone like the help office guy.
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Slim Rypher, GNN PR
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Hello, Slim Rypher here, GNN Public Relations specialist. I just took a minute and read the first two pages of "breaking news" for everyone, and took out some nice third party quotes:
| Star Commander wrote: | GNN, you are defintley sponosred by ZTC, lol.
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| WilliamWallace wrote: | | Cmon, this is just another piece of I.C.P. propaganda. |
| mjx1 wrote: | | well ive got too hand it too the saiyans they know how too make a news report |
I did not read the arcticles, just the responses. Also, I did not go past page two.
We at GNN attempt to bring you the best in neutral broadcasting. We feel it adds a touch of humanity when we show sympathy to one side of a conflict, but we try to be fair, and report from all sides.
Also, we get many submissions from different players and alliances, and of course, the truth must be extracted from them. We feel that some of our best stories are derived from both sides, when opponents report on the same situation, and we can get a clear picture. If we only get one side, we may appear to be biased.
The arcticle in question was inspected by a team of professors from the Galactic University. Their conclusion was that the use of the word "heroes" was more sarcastic than praiseful.
Thank you for your attention,
Slim
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | We feel it adds a touch of humanity when we show sympathy to one side of a conflict, but we try to be fair, and report from all sides. |
Is this a confirmation, that GNN chooses sides in conflicts ?
| Quote: | | Their conclusion was that the use of the word "heroes" was more sarcastic than praiseful. |
Is this a denial, that the members of TO are heroes ? How about ICP/Novus ordo ? Which status do the members of this alliance have ?
Lets talk clear, and lets have a statement from GNN how their reports are to be understood. You owe your readers a clear picture of your perspective on things !!!!! |
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christiano
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| The above post is from me |
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Vrictus
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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just because ICP were owned by T.O.
for god sake, shut up.
Conner was mocked by GNN, but he didnt complain, now GNN call T.O heros, you make all this fuss.
You sad-act |
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Slim Rypher, GNN PR
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To be honest, the word "heroes" doesnt really apply to any alliance, any player.
GNN is really for entertainment purposes only. It is not fun to have a truly neutral viewpoint in every arcticle, and the editors of GNN believe it sounds more exciting and fun with a bit of a slant on it, from all sides.
We at GNN are trying to make a bit of fun here in Spacetrace, and we are also trying our best to keep all alliances happy. We are also trying to document some of the events happening in the ST world for longevity.
Christiano, have I offended your alliance in any way? Have I made your alliance look bad? If so I apologize.
GNN recieves a lot of positive feedback, so we believe that we are doing the best possible job we could do, considering that this is a completely volunteer assignment.
If you dont like our reporting, feel free to tune us out, or petition the admin to have us shut down.
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christiano
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Don´t understand my post wrong. I think the idea about a newsstation is very good, and I think the reports are done very well. No doubt this is a win for the game !!!
But frankly I don´t understand why criticism is such a big problem.
| Quote: | for god sake, shut up.
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| Quote: | | Christiano, have I offended your alliance in any way? Have I made your alliance look bad? |
| Quote: | | If you dont like our reporting, feel free to tune us out, or petition the admin to have us shut down. |
(Slim Rypher)
Statements as the above answering critique are in my oppinion tasteless. I stated a point that I found problematic, and asked what the background was.
Is it allowed to raise such questions ? Is it a problem that I ask about the GNN news independency ? To assume motives from my side, as the above quoted is to take the focus away from the issue. The question is not, how GNN treated me, or my alliance.
The question was to call members from TO -an alliance, involved in conflicts, - `heroes´. That itself I find cannot come along with a objective report, but goes under category propaganda. And I find it rather important to know, how the GNN sees this.
`To be honest, the word "heroes" doesnt really apply to any alliance, any player.´
With the above answer I am satisfied. I raised the question to the news station, and they answered me, and confirmed me in my opinion, calling members of TO - an alliance, involved in conflicts, `heroes´ is not ok. It was done once, but it was sarcastic.
The discussion is from my point of view then ended. It never was about how my alliance or I were treated in the news, it was about what I wrote.
But why the criticism was treated, as it did, is rather concerning.
Vrictus, you have a pretty sad attitude if you have a problem with people stating criticism.
And to the GNN news station: I hope you in the future have no problem with dealing with criticism, and can do it without assuming other interests behind. Let me put it this way: Did it offend you that i raised the issue about the charactization of the members of TO ?[/quote] |
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Vrictus
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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liar, you started this topic to see how many people agreed with you. what difference does it make if T.O do control GNN?
more importantly, what can you do about it?
just leave GNN alone. |
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Slim Rypher, GNN PR
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Ill be glad to be finished with this topic.
As you know, we at GNN are eager to accept critisism. We have broadcast over-the-air several times that our door is always open, and private messages and forum posts are welcomed. We state that we want to publish the premium news, and leave nobody out. If anyone has a problem with our posts, we will air your side of the story upon request. Period.
We did not take your accusation as a critisism, we took it as an expose.
Please take the time to read all ten pages of "Breaking News", and you will find us to be very impartial.
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WilliamWallace
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Slim Rypher, GNN PR wrote: |
| WilliamWallace wrote: | | Cmon, this is just another piece of I.C.P. propaganda. |
The arcticle in question was inspected by a team of professors from the Galactic University. Their conclusion was that the use of the word "heroes" was more sarcastic than praiseful.
Thank you for your attention,
Slim |
Your first post looked very much like pro I.C.P. but now I know you are quite independent, and that's ow it should be. |
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Connor McCloud
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:46 am Post subject: |
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No , GNN is not pro -TO- or ICP it seems to me they are objective
So Christiano AKA The Duke of odd spaceball read all of their messages and not the one posted by other players you will see they are objective .
Greetz Connor 
PS how can they be pro ICP since they only "won" 1 battle in our war
there can't be anything positive to write about ICP on the otherhand lots of battles won by -TO- there is much to write in favorit of -TO-
Can't change the statistics about that it is only bringing the real news 
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Star Commander
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:35 am Post subject: |
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NIcely Said Connor btw, later if ur on IRC i will posrt you the link to your sig.
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christiano
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Since you, Vrictus, seem to be a person with a.......how shall I put this.....rather limited ability of understanding what other persons write, and since you seem to be a person that compensate for a pretty underdeveloped intellectual power by being pretty fast on the trigger with unjustified accusations and personal insultans, I shall for your sake be a little clearer.
Make yourself comfortable, my little friend, and pay attention. And try to focus and concentrate this time:
| Quote: | | liar, you started this topic to see how many people agreed with you. what difference does it make if T.O do control GNN? |
Not true.
Me problem with calling TO heroes.
Me criticize and ask for independency
Me ask if that opinion GNN
( Is this to fast ? O.k take a little break, and perhaps start from the beginning again, if something slipped your attention. )
GNN answer.
Me satisfied.
Now we are taking a pretty big step up, it might be a little difficult. But I believe in you Vrictus, you can make it !
O.K, here it comes: What can we deduce from the above, and what can not be deduced ?
The issue was not what GNN wrote about my alliance.
The issue was not what GNN wrote about me
The issue was not that GNN was claimed to be stupid, nor bad, nor whatever.
The issue was criticizing for not keeping a high enough standard of independency, which now is cleared, done with, over and out.
About the difference of a news station controled by a part or being independent - well, Vrictus, I don´t know if there is any point in trying to exsplain it to you. Are you serious about not seing any difference ?
| Quote: | | what difference does it make if T.O do control GNN? |
Let me just say it has something with the difference between propaganda and news coverage to do. Perhaps we can take it another time, I think this must be enough for today. You must also be pretty tired
@ Slim Rypher :
I have read all 10 pages, and found it very good ! Therefore i reacted on the description about TO as I did. I found it did not harmonize with the standards, the other reports had. And I were glad about your answer about agreeing with me that the characterization of members of an alliance as heroes is not objective. And further I am glad that you take criticism positive and see it as a contribution to your news coverage. |
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Skyfreak
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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yo guyz from GNN, u do a great job, funny and a lot of info can be found as well, and don't feel like u r not objective if u call TO hereos, cause a fact is still characterization of members of an alliance as heroes is objective, in this case it is just a fact and very neutral, so TO wont see it as a compliment, just the way it is. What we really are, a kewl alliance with a nice attidude, the attack one of course
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Gotsex
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:28 am Post subject: LOL |
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| Chill out, i mean come on, the great people at GNN hype everything up making a great piece of jounalism, each time they pick a new slant, not like thay trash anyone ever. Let the people write their articals and stop giving thema hard time. |
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