Are any of the old boys still around?

[Shade]

nice to hear you'll start playing again Achillies,

TO is very inactive right now, just mere sleeping giants camping it out at the blackhole, we've held it for 50 days consecutively now, give or take a day or 2..

We have only 1 active member, ironically he's the #1 muchacho right now... Great going connor

And 4 of us sitting at the BH, the 6th member offline for 28 days lol.. (gogo sola)

And yes the good ol' drop method "bug" was fixed and is no longer possible..

The game these days is seemingly a mere shadow of what is used to be, there's not so many active people, no wars of any great magnitude, things have become quite boring in our galaxy..
Hence our content to just sit at the BH..

You're always welcome back in TO, perhaps we will rise up once again for one more onslaught on the innocent younglings of spacetrace.
I'm sure methi and lowvoice (our biggest fans) would love that.

pm me your msn, and lets have a chat

[blackmagic]

HEy!! I don't talk in the forum much no mor but i saw the "latest fourm entry" and the title caught my eye. Yup i'm still here and MH is currently #1 Yeah! Its been awhile..... Where have you been?? Spacetrace is truley goin down the way of the dodo. The inactivity is killing me. Is it only me or is everybody else jux not attacking other people. I'm sitting at my base and i've been only attacked like 5 times.
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[Tweety]

Shade and Blackmagic are right, its been very quiet since the big wars.

I really didnt want to start the discussion again, but ... who cares:

I think the reason for the boring times are versatile.
First, some "old" players left, because they were bored, or too busy. But as we can see they pop in to see whats going on from time to time. The summer holidays may have an impact on the low number of active players, too. I'm quite inactive as well, doing things like Blackmagic - waiting inactively for a battle.

But the main reason is, that the players do not have new ideas. Either that or all the playable ideas have already been played, at least by the expierienced players. That means: Big wars arent interessting, because one time a player will finish his evo and the other alliance wins, because of the better score. To capture a flag is boring for the same reason. Its not desirable to be in the #1 position, because the score is relative. The relative score changes too often, its hard to keep track with that.

So, what we all do is to check out the fix points in the Galaxy like Nebula, BH and ... Whats the other thing???... to look for the only real and fiexed stats: The Hall of Fame. But it has its players in its positions, small chance to stick into the higher positions.

I think the system is good as it is now. The concept is fantastic, you can join every time you want to. But there's not enough competition in it, no real competition. Like when you know the round ends up in 2 weeks, and you have to score a lot of points to be in the #1 position. Or the new alliance concepts players come up with every new round. I played in the round system, I can talk about that Although the evolution and performance of the game is much better now.

I say: Go back to the round system! Its easier to get players into the game when you tell them "Hey, a new round stats, you have to be part of it." An alternative is more universes: Like you dont stop a round after a few months, you just set up a new universe. Anyone who likes to, can play in the "older" universe, but I think, most or all of the players like the competition in the new one!

And its not too hard to reset a database. Just clear all entrys.

I also invented a spacetrace light, which can be used for n00bs - or an endless round system.. http://www.spacetrace.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3719

There're so many possibilities. I alsolutely accept that the admins dont have time, but I dont accept that support of other players that want to be or can be admins is not accepted (not me, I dont have a clue about admin stuff). Yes, I wouldnt care about expierienced players, too. I'd say that every game gets boring one time. But as we all can see, there're lots of "older" players around, and some new ones who probably have the same opinion.

[lilkrnboi1018]

hey blackmagic! i am one of the people who attacked u! yay but i horibly failed.....
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[mjx1]

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[Guest]

Good point Tweets, and good to hear from you, and Magic as well!

I actually quit because I started working a new shift, and it was hard on my family.

I joined back up again, because I do have an addiction to this incredible game. After becoming proficient in Spacetrace, and learning about its vast sea of possibilities, other online games just dont compare. Not only that, I havent even played my Xbox or PS2 as much as I have played Spacetrace.

My only problem with Spacetrace: PLOT !!!!!!! The theory is that the players create their own plot as they go along. The problem is that it only includes the loudmouths, and the confidant players. It is very easy to get "lost in space" and not be part of the major wars. Look at the alliance list, and you can see what I mean. (I am assuming that nothing has changed in the past year.) It is very difficult for a new player to succesfully get into the game, and achieve veteran status. When I first started, I brought in about eight friends, and we were the "Peloponesian League" (I think round three or four.) All my friends quit, and sadly never got into the politics and grand battles that I have experienced in this game, only because I put forth the effort to do so.

Trying to gain as much score as fast as you can is tedious, and draining. Sure, its exciting as hell to gain 2000+ in one battle, or stomp five or six fleets at the hole by yourself, but its the drama and plot that I remember about Spacetrace. Masterhunters vs the Smurf Dragons, Star Sharks, Mightygod the Multi, Borgs vs ABC, shifting alliances, backstabs, sneak attacks, and me and Darmadon f-ing sh-t up at the hole.

I have many ideas about how to enrich the general atmosphere, and make it a bit more flavorful, but Ill save those for another time.

I came back, after a year sabbatical, and I am glad that I still have some friends here. (Tweety, I could have at least recieved a proper hello, Ive worked alongside you many times )

I could care less about score right now, I am just in it for the fun, and the DRAMA!

[Achilles]

Do I have a problem logging in now or what!

[Liderant]

well, you bet it was really fun back in the days of borg, smurf dragon and all war alliances. The problem with spacetrace is that it is really a hard game to start playing. I mean, it is easy to get bored when you dont know what happend in the battle, or even when you do not know why this game has no graphics, but pure numbers.
I see this game like "up site down". Other games in the internet you just start playing them, not because you really like them, but because you are kind of bored and want to have quick entertainment, but after a few days you just get bored of them. Spacetrace, in the other hand, is not an atractive game (is like a great movie with a bad begining); is a game that needs time to understand and to like.
Space is a lonely place for noobs, cuz they always have fear to attack and learn.
Plot is an important part of the game and it depends on the community humor, that is reflected in the forum.
Activity is really important to sustain the game humor, i mean, whats the fun of staying at one score planet, just to "win" easy points. Be ACTIVE!!! I holded the pulsar not with my entire fleets, just with one figther, why? because i love to battle and thats an invitation for those who likes to battle. I move around the galaxie searching for new targets. Only if all of you do that, this game would be more spicy, therefor more fun.
About the round stuff, we can suggest like a parallel game. Neverending rounds for amateurs, or for chillout, prove new fleets combos, etc. And every few months like a tournament round, that would be more like the round system we used to have. In the tournament round is where you can prove which is the best alliance, player, etc...
sorry for writting to much
greets, Liderant

P.D.: i just lost some ships because of this message. I hate to forget that i sent the fleets to attack somebody

[Connor McCloud]

Well I ain't an very old player , but I'm arround some time now . still like the game but it was more interesting when there were some major wars going on , maybe after summer vacation there will be more active players so we can start some nice wars , and -TO- will rule the game again
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[Rubens]

After vacations everything would be the same. What would we do with more old players? they will inactive anyway, the game has no changes so it will stay like it is now.
-TO- has never rules...no after i left;)
@Liderant casually i found some ex-friend of ST that was the leader of the_locos, in other game. I told him that i was still playing ST and he said me "amazing!!" i obviously asked him why he aint playing. Hhe told me that he was too busy, with the University etc. And he is right.
This is an amazing game as liderant said. 1)It is free 2)This is REAL strategy, nobody can have an advantage over other ppl and that is amazing 3)This is not a game played by turns. It is real time! i mean the conccept is unic. Maybe planetarion is like this. But this is free and is text based, so it's even easier.
@Tweety, even with the lastest changes the fleets setups are the same. Nobody has a new idea, not even with the flags:S I have just thought in 1 different fleet in this 1 and half month. (i dont know if you like this can of fleets but here it is ppl/i dont have time to probe it/ 900 mobile repair bots and if you can a camapign ship;)
NEway, If i am not wrong i was the first in ask rounds back. And we are still crying for them. But i am not agree in that we should have a paralel tournament. Ether in change rounds to evolution everytime.
We cant have both cuz noob would join in just 1 and we would be divided, i seriously think that it wouldnt be a great idea.
Sometimes we should look our past, and transform it to the present, so we would know what "future" is.

[Grolsch]

Just back from vacation and see this topic. Welcome back Achilles, it was always a pleasure fighting against or with you. And Spyder and I have opened the topic about "rounds vs evolution" many times (http://www.spacetrace.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3164) but it is useless.

(aka JaM)
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[EvansWar]

Well i aint old... but im not new either...
Welcome Back Anyways!

[Achilles]

JaM?!?! What happened to your cute little bumblebee?

I didnt mean for this thread to turn into a discussion on the game's basics, but it lead to it after discussing why people leave.

@Evanswar: Thanks a lot.

[mackman]

I think I might come back for a round I have played as Darmadon Of dremples before.
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[Star Commander]

Well Mackman if you do play another round please dont hesistate and join the Red Army.

btw... nice to hear from ya!
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[Rubens]

You what? Mackman you are still reading the forum, amazing!!! You are an old very old man;) LOL
Well explain your phrase a little more, you will play for one more respawn or you are waiting that ST takes back the rounds;)?

[WilliamWallace]

Yes man. Achilles and Darmadon both wanna play.

I think w8 one more month till Gorth, DB and Kame are back. Restart the complete game and have one big good round. If it sucks, we'll stick to the evo otherwise we've reanimated the game finally.

@ Achilles: Welcome back. You left a year before I joined, but I've read s lot of topics so it seems like I know you I've played for a year, am reaching for the top but this whole year it has stayed the same.

It surely is about the right time to get the rounds back.

[blackmagic]

Man i'm bored. From what i hear, spacetrace needs a new face lift. If i knew how to code in php or watever i might try to make a test version of spacetrace. MH is bac to #1 for the 10th time or watever. Kinda boring. There is no "happy" feeling being #1 now. There's no competition for it and it didn't require much fighting to get there. I think MH will just stick down to #2.
Bot achilles and Darmadon were in MH and we did realli well. We reached #1 a few times. Unforutunetly Darmadon left to play with out rival alliance because he promised, but he never came back Neways. I miss the old times. Why is it that humans seem to reminience about the past so much? If the past was so good why can't the present?
I finally see new technology in the game, but they're not making as much of an impact as older technology did.

WHEN WILL WE SEE CHANGE??

I will be somewat inactive in a few weeks because school is starting back up and my evolution is almost over. Nice to see people greeting eachother ^.^
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From the deepest depths of the Galaxy, a new
power is born.
Trained assassins ....Who strike down all who
oppose.
MASTERHUNTERS
~Blackmagic of Shadowball~
The Leader of the Best Alliance EVER!!!

[mackman]

[Rubens]

Nice, i think we never fight between us, we were a strong alliance;)
Can u PM with ur ingame name? i cant find u Aat least u are in a safety alliance as TO is;)