What Happened?

[promethius2]

What happened to Spacetrace?
Its like it just died. That feeling of excitement, when you win a victory, or when a new neighbour appears or when an alliance declares war > Its gone

What happened to Spacetrace??
And more importantly, what can we do to make it better again?


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Hobbes: What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin: Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

[lowvoice]

i feel that too i mean it seems the chatrooms getting emptier each day the forums getting boringer each day and there was a time where people looked out for each over on this game what happened too that? i think we should A. kick wolfpac out the games gone downhill ever since he arrived and B recreate the nazgul those where th good old days the nazgul

[Star Commander]

Yes but i kept to my promise havent i!!!
I havent hacked or multied

And i think we should kick u ass your presence makes this game
BORING!!!

i cause alot of wars in the galaxy so i do my part in keeping the
spirit of war up!
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[kever]

The game hase remained unchanged for years now. Only some very very minor chanches and even the neverending roudn suggest to inactive admis. You gusy are just too inactive, with this rate the game won't last longer than the end of this year. I hear Jam might be willing to help and code new things to the game, so I think it would be wise if you (the admins) would let him do that and maybe make him too an admin or half admin or something near that. He has helped you in the past atleast, so why not in the future too?
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[admin]

there are new players coming every day, so please don`t worry

in fact we admins are less active than in the beginning, but only, because we have more tasks in our life than just computers.

i still really enjoy administrating the game, and i still spend a lot of my free time in administrating the game, so there is nothing wrong.
i would love to make it a full-time-job, but noone pays me for it

and yes, Jam IS doing admin-things with us. we are still in close contact.
have a look in our contact page: http://www.spacetrace.org/contact.php

[Elder]

This game isnt that wrong.

I say to u Methi, come with one of your big good ideas once more and ourganise a space tournament.

We choose some coords, and anyone who participates will be ensured planet safety. That's all. Admin wont have to create special Tournament Fleets or other things.

Months ago, the forums were living with people having wars with each other and the suggestions part was allways full of great ideas

Let the old times revive ( maybe it was even better about a year ago, but I cant talk about that. But even these months I've been playing, I noticed a downwards path )

[Star Commander]

Yes i think we should have a space tournament.
Maybe alliances VS each other ???
Like who ever wins the most points gos on to the next round and then maybe would have a new section on the hall of fame and there the alliances that won that tournament. ?
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[promethius2]

[Star Commander]

Yes very well spoken Methi and also the Admin thing if you cant get on alot well make some one an admin who is on alot and knows quite abit
IE. Gorth, Case, JaM i think these would be suitable for some posotions at being Admins and maybe DM he is pretty good to!

Also as methi said the wormhole thing would be nice and the ships, and i think this has been mentioned before diffrent sides of the galaxy when u have a new account for the first few days u go into training or something there you have those 3-5 days reading the manual and asking questions about the game then after that you have the option to move onto the other Galaxy the one where all the other players are or learn some more in the other galaxy and also maybe you could give the new people with accounts while there in this other Galaxy a few thousand points to practive with and then when they move into the other galxy there score is reset to 0 and they have to play the game as normal.
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[concour]

methi i think your ideas are great and would like you to post them, thier is always something that could make anything better, but problems can never be fixed, or have things improved if no one states any ideas.
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[concour]

star commander, the thing through is for the newbs in hte other part of tht galaxy, if they move to the normal part of the galaxy and their score is reste to 0, shouldn't the evolution and resaerch be set back too.
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[Star Commander]

well concour i think the idea has gotta be worked on a bit more.

But i was thinking that you are only aloud up to a certain score evo and research in the beggining part of the galaxy?
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[lowvoice]

Let me explain something promethius2 A. i was the one who told Evans about this game so if he ever hacked multied or in anyway cheated it is my fault and my responcibility too make it right and for me i think that is just crap. B. it was my account that he constently hacked i would go in each day anf find that ive switched too alliance that i either hated or hadnt even heard of before C. this used too be my place where i could talk about anytin without the locals knowing D. ive known Evans a lot longer than you have and i wouldnt trust him anywhere near a computer E. how dare you post my confersations in the forum and F. i remember once that he called u a spammer and i was the one who stuck up for u.

On a completly different note i reckon we should all go too the black hole at the same time maybe in groups with the same attack codes or maybe we should choose two attack codes and everyone randomly picks one and see what happens

[promethius2]

[Grolsch]

If I be so kind to address the multiple problems:

1. No active development
2. Admins are at distance
3. No seeable admin at work

For a normal user it is always kind of hard to have a look in admin's doing. Partly because he isn't allowed to, but more because he wouldn't know the time and effort which is put in things. In reality things are not as worse as they are.

1. We only see the stable version of ST, don't know the plans which are ahead, don't know the beta version of the game. If one wants to make a development in the game it will mostly cause a gameplay change. That has to be forseen and thought up. Players only give suggestion in their general form, but for a developer it is always needed to have specific details. But does this has to done by a developer. Of course not. But communication also cost time. A new feature is mostly programmed very fast. But the preparation, thinking of bugs, hacks it will cause (not only technical, but also functional) the testing after, finding of the problems (the 2 members alliance does has a flag bug for instance, was a stupid mistake but caused lot's of tracking down). I think programming is only 10% of the total time being put in.

2. Normal users see them once in a month in irc and well it is not to write home about that. They have lives too and we understand. But during some months their presence is completely lost. And game was steerless. And if they are, they have to fix problems caused by multiing or by bugs. Which is BORING. Spacebot is DEAD.

3. We don't know if they do work or don't. It is hidden for us. We don't know in which state some developments are.

The solution may sound easy but it isn't. It is complicated. Especially now since we don't have much active playing around. I am against never ending round and think it is a cause of it and cause of the multies. Like kever said, never ending round implies inactive admins. But this isn't going to change, never.

Like testing could be done by others, but testing only reduces time if the tester can read the code and fix the bugs or could point them out. And the code of ST requiers some time to understand.

I know admins are busy but let's face it, if it is going on like this, there won't be much left of SpaceTrace in a few months (or is it just me who is having this feeling). We see the problems, but not their solutions.
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[promethius2]

I agree completely Grolsh.
I once heard Admin say they had a plan for the pre-warps, but I have heard nothing more.
A simple solution would be for Admins to say what they are working on atm.

But yes, I think Spacetrace has only a few months to live if it keeps going on like this.
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Hobbes: What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin: Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

[admin]

you cannot force us to work on new features.

at the moment we are not developing much because the summer starts and we need a rest from computing.

the game is good as it is now - it has a stable gameplay which has the potential for hundredths of strategies. the alliance play makes it possible to change the political composition all the time and new things happen in the galaxy.

our goal was to create a kind of new universe which is alive.
i think a galaxy, where a few hundret people meet and play is a great success already.
and a lot of people like it like it is.
sure: some players leave and some new players move into the game, this is life.

and it will go on forever ...

[Star Commander]

Admin i get your gist. It is near summer in England to so i no how you feel. you wanna get away from these slow machines and wanna relax in the Sunshine. So what i suggest is that if u could give some one else the prilvillege like JaM or someone unless hes goin out for the summer. Because i think JaM would be pretty ok at monotoring the game for a while why you take a break.

Just to see if you would let JaM take the Job on
And
Weither JaM would accept?

[Tweety]

[Elder]