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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject: If this is the right place, well I'll continue in here
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Damn, dont lock it while I still want to post plz.

I can explain:

1 I didnt accuse Base, i asked for explanation, and the first he gave me, didnt satisfie me. My second post was a bit wrong.

2 It is very easy to say it is a bug. I know i cant proof it is anything else, but I have been playing for 5 months, and in that time I have attacked masses of people, and to be completely true, it only occured once ( when attacking Base one time ).

3 Dark rider told me that this happened to him much times ( with Base, DB and others). He didnt trust the game, so he left. He was quite upset. I know him personally, and i know he isnt upset that quickly.

4 I admit it CAN be a bug. But if this does happen more often, i just have my thaughts about that ok?

5 To Shade, i know u are 24/7 online, so are Base and Turiana. But Dark rider did tell me Base wasnt just online 24/7, but he was ACTIVE 24/7. And that's something else.

6 To Admin, are u sure this programming thing aint possible in any way?

7 I am just telling what Dark rider told me, he allready left, but i want to make up my mind before deciding if I will not or will continue with this game.

Thats all, for now. Maybe I'll believe u for now, but this little sense i got that there's something wrong, it wont dissapear.


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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:24 pm    Post subject:
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The odds that you know Dark Rider personally are quite small, certainly when you never met him. Kowing him via a instant messenger program isn't personal Elder.

And indeed, you may have your suspicions, but if you don't have any proof, please keep them for yourself, that's better for the whole game. Come only with accusations if you really got the proof

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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:27 pm    Post subject:
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@admin, actully i did lose points becuse of this bug. i had a window of 2 minutes before my fleet would arrive and the enemy fleet would get back to his base, his fleet was stronger than mine and i was planning to attack his base and pull back before his fleet showed up. but becuse of the bug my fleet needed an extra 4 minutes to get to his base and so i had to pull back without attacking.... by doing so, it costed me points (500 to be exact)

so even if the real attack happen at the real time, it is possible to lose points becuse untill your fleet goes there you will not have an attack, score or battle report

BTW: why locking the topic? people might like to talk about it some more...
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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:30 pm    Post subject:
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The topic was locked because a respectable player was being accused. And not because he was in TO he got some kind of privileges to be protected (to clear some incoming accusations to my side) but if someone else would be accused like that, that would happen too. If you want to talk about the bug, you can do it here. But no further names please
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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:31 pm    Post subject:
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And Moderator, every one in this game accuses eachother... its very hard to come up with strong proof alone, you accuse someone and hope others will have proofs to help you prove your accusations... in Elder's case, he was wrong... but there is no reson not to accuse someone if you feel like they should be...
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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:31 pm    Post subject:
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As for the being online all day. please kid...

When i am actively playing Spacetrace you will also notice that i am seen as online 24/7.
Now i say "seen as" becuase that is all it simply is.
If you log into Spacetrace and leave the browser window open and your computer running, then you will remain online ingame.
Even though ST logs you out automaticlly after 15 minutes or so of inactivity, if the browser window is open and on the ST site you will still be seen as online.
This sure is no cheat....


He did say it.


And I still havent accused him. I am just asking for explanation. And just saying he is experienced and I suck doesnt seem to be an explanation to me.


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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:33 pm    Post subject:
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But know i admit it can be a bug. A very fucking stupid bug that really sucks, but still a bug. Couldnt there be anything done to help this bug accure at least less often?
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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:35 pm    Post subject:
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Hey, respected players could be accused as well,
I was a very respected player... i was accused, rightly i might add
Spyder was a respected player.. he was accused

people will get accused, and they should defend themselfs... and by locking the topic you just taking all the democracy out of this game... in other words you are saying who can and who can not be accused

in bases case, people were defending him. including me.. i do not belive he was cheating (at least not in the way that he was accused)

Moderator, please do not abuse your influance to protect your Friends (TO or otherwise) if you wish to protect them, discuss your view with your normal fourm account instead of locking the account so people can't say what they think (in his case he doesn't even need protection)
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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:49 pm    Post subject:
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this is so stupid, i didn't do anything special but move my fleets, i don't use programs but thnx for the flowers, i wish i was that good, that u only had it with me is because u only play 5 month, all other explanations u will see in ur furture batte reports with me.
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:17 am    Post subject:
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Indeed this is Stupid.
And Admin, I was just thinking there about the curse filter on the forum.
And i must agree that it should block swear-words.
But to be honest. I think almost every player on this game is over 12.
And if you have ever seen 12 films, certain curses are allowed shi-t
and ass. a-hole.
So i think that at least some words should be allowed, and levae the responsibility to us.
Or perhaps make it legal, just as long as the swear words are not directed at anyone.
As for the topic being locked.
I find this absolutely outrageous. It is a Total Brecch of our right to a voice. Fair enough, if people were breaking the rules of the forum, (really bad cursing) or whatever, lock it up np.
But the locked topic not only stopped others from giving their opinion, but it also stopped people from Defending base.
And Moderator, If you are one Person, then i ask Admin to appoint a few others to share that account. Because in the words of the moderator himself. He locked the topic because h felt an honest player was being accused.
And telll me moderator, if a player such as Wile Coyote, an obvious multi (and yet innocent @tm) If you really think he is guilty already methi you should not be on the Jurywould you close the topic now? I think not.
If it was someone who abused you and you despised, would you close the topic i think not!
That is why Admin that moderator account should becme a sort of Council.
At least Sapcely ASKED to lock topics. I am still here Methi
Admin, you are Dictators. You falsify our voices by adding useless polls that have no meaning. And yes this is a Game, and a game run by you.
This is propaganda. The power of the moderator could easily be given to the wrong hands and that person could delete posts from his enemies.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE, AND I HAVE LOST THE TRUST OF THE ADMIN BECAUSE OF THIS.
Its like a Democracy but the Parliament has no power
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:28 pm    Post subject:
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Methi, I didn't close the topic to avoid further complaining to my side admin did that. You can talk about that topic as much as you want in here, but no accusations and no swearing. I thought i made that clear good enough. I am not the only moderator on this forum, there are many more. Does that mean that every moderator needs to share his account? Every account is unique, just as an ingame account. And if I say I think, then it automaticly means that everybody in the crew thinks about it that way. Admin agreed with me in that topic. I False accusations are not allowed, period.
And i don't let my own feeling guide me in here, I do this for the best of the game, not for my own sake. I just do what i have to do. My own feelings have nothing to do with that and they will never interfere in my job as moderator, then i will just use my normal account if i want to express my feelings
And God, we all know that there are people being accused of a lot of things. But if the one who accuses got no evidence about it, let him keep that for himself or only share it ingame with his fellow-alliance members or something.

This is de link to the topic:
Question to Gravedigga

For the ones who need to discuss it further, please do it here. You can all say your opinion about it, that's why Elder opened this topic
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:42 pm    Post subject:
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lol methi calm down
Modrator, swaring yes... (well edit the sweard topics) but accusations, noway hosay
and one has the right to accuse anyone... i am sure you would not have close the topic if it was lance or wile that was being accused....

so just becuse you know base and his girlfriend didn't like the fact that he was being accused and was asking you to delet the tiopic or lock it, there is absolutly no reson to lock it. (you know i have the irc logs )

I've been in this game for 4 years, and as long as i remember, all people have the right to accuse anyother player even if they just think something i wrong with them...

and elder did have proof (or he thought he did anyway) now we proved to him his proof was wrong.

so stop saying people can't accuse people
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:59 pm    Post subject:
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To that thing that calls itself mighty
sod off and zip it ...
you are so miserably stupid...you post and post about people and stuff you know S H I T about ok.
and change your bloody disgusting name while you are at it...

Methi, remember when base posted that F U C K topic, how cool it was, how we laughed and how the REAL admins said yeah, we are not going to be childish and avoid swearing .... yep... anywayz, miss ye, do hurry back...

To Elder ..... wow wow wow .... you sod off too mate...I want nothing to do with you anymore .... ok
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:14 pm    Post subject:
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Jazzy!
That topic. I posted a link for that topic, in the question to gravedigga post and Admin deleted it

I can tell you that this forum is really fucked up now.
We are not allowed curse or anything. And Admin, why are we not allowed curse? Becasue we are suposed to be civilised?
Well the word civilised is evolving. And if you watch TV you will notice that more nad more curses are becoming acceptable, in fact the only word not allowed any more is C U N T. (And rightly so)
But Admin! I think ou should destroy this swear filter as it is a load of rubbish. Just make it against the rules to direst the curses @ anyone.

Because afrer all F U C K is a great word.
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so just becuse you know base and his girlfriend didn't like the fact that he was being accused and was asking you to delet the tiopic or lock it, there is absolutly no reson to lock it. (you know i have the irc logs


the above was written by that dude ....


you stupid stupid stupid being
so so so very stupid
you sit there covered in your very own fat and you watch what we write while you probably jerk off you sick minded toad ...

did you not think .... how we play with your stupid mind, say things to make you look even more stupid, if that is possible, considering the depth of your stupidity...

To admins .... are you going to allow this ...
we go into irc and make evil plans and write crap to confuse people
and then someone threatens with it
and has already cause a lot of trouble doing exactly this
check previous posting he did with copy paste from irc ...

and admin....thnx so much for replying to the gravedigga posting
much appreciated.

Greetz

ps....Methi....then it's our job as players to make sure that our forum is nice and interesting and so forth ok ....
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:27 pm    Post subject:
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Pity dark rider stopped, and methi, you are damn right, i wanne be able to say F U C K again!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a normal word, peeps have to do it if they wanne have babies or just for fun, so why can't we say it!!!

*rebellion!!!!!!! *


Ah djiezzz I am not able to say D A M N
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lol Kirby .... if we'd all be like darkrider, we'd all quit after our first battle with a real pro just like darkrider did, exactly that.

Yo Dutchbatter....remember how you taught Wicked Witch some little tricks that I wasn't able to answer to lol

Methody was a nice one too.... to spring surprises on me the refreshing thingy I learned from methody, lol thats how long this bugs been active in the battles ...

and Spyder...I never knew anyone who could crawl up on one so quietly lol

and there are so many ....tricks....skills....recently I messed up an organised battle with fellow TO's ... guess what...my fleets were not in sync and I almost overshot and and and ...yeah yeah yeah ...

An example .... just a wee small example .... would I at this moment challenge....lets say ....DeathKiller....like DarkRider backstabbed Gravedigga and then challenged him....

My answer .... LOL

*Turiana*MoC*DBD
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jazzy wrote:
so just becuse you know base and his girlfriend didn't like the fact that he was being accused and was asking you to delet the tiopic or lock it, there is absolutly no reson to lock it. (you know i have the irc logs


the above was written by that dude ....


you stupid stupid stupid being
so so so very stupid
you sit there covered in your very own fat and you watch what we write while you probably jerk off you sick minded toad ...

did you not think .... how we play with your stupid mind, say things to make you look even more stupid, if that is possible, considering the depth of your stupidity...
....


Lol Turiana. You go girl! Swing that Rock-Filled handbag right at his face!
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yeah lol .... fish and chips with loads of vinegar ....that's what we need around here .... methi lol
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lol, jazzy's here.. let the spamming begin.

btw: i dunno if you want to be funny or its just the way you are, but when ever you say something, you make me laugh...
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