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[Mighty]

This game has changed indeed... but for better, i doubt

1st of all I see fit to thank the Admin for there many new aspects of the game.., good job guys, alot has improved scince i last played

now as most of you already know, i've played this game before once 3,4 years ago and again 1,2 years ago. now i am playing again

i've noticed alot of changes, some of which is very sad

back in the days they were big alliances, they were good players, a limited number of very active and exprianced players.
there was always 2,3 main big alliances fighting against eachother... it was always a competition... fun,

Now when i made the Alliance LXG in begining of this never ending round, i came up with the idea to take all those active players into 1 alliance, not caring about the fact that they were professonals or noobs, knowing they could lean the game as long as there active and knowing if there with me, they can't be against me.
so i made IRC and fourms my main way of taking new players into alliance.... it was very sucsesfull...

at the time we had competiotion, the Borg. which was also doing the same thing (exapt they let in everyone that wanted to join)

now after 2 years i can see i made a big mistake, by taking and putting all the active people in one alliance (good or bad) one would automatically take the competition away and so make the whole game pointless

right now TO owns more than 80% of active members in irc, fourms and the game! (which would mean i get buncha of sharp responses to this post too)

and for this reson there almost imposible to take over, many people have tried in past, but after failing to do so, they have done the next best thing, joined TO.. or became there spys, there friends.
(if you cant beat it, be it)

To members have gain such high ego that they no longer seem to be willing to give there position at any price, there swear, they spam, they lie, they accuse, and from what i've heard. they have even hacked the accounts of there enemies in the past

as such the game has lost it purpose. it is no longer a sirus cometition.

i have talked to many people in past few days, most of them with same msg. TO can not go down. they own most of the active players in this game... even if all other active, vetran players be put toghter, they will not be anywhere close to TO.

so even though there is a competition here and there, it is no sirus threat

Now, I will still try to do what i joined the game to do... fix this problem, but i'm starting to see there is noone else in here but the TO people... so if you are active and willing to help make the game more fun, please let me know you so we can unite against them. (like bountyhunters against sm's, ABCs against borgs)

how ever, i further have to address TO players them self. part TO. make a new alliance. make a challange. make competition, and lets once again make this game fun

becuse as it stands this game is a very boaring monopoly.

further more, i have discoverd that this game and its players have lost respect for themselves and the game as whole

there is spamming and swearing every where... in irc, in fourms... there is nolonger any houner between players, any friendly challanges. every one attempts to do anything to prove there case. i was just reading elder's topic. calling eachother multi's , noob's , and more....

The player of the game have lost there houner

i beg admin to once again start modrating chatrooms and fourms.. there are volunteers that would be happy to help them do so. let us bring the game to its former glory

I know i wasn't the most honerable player in the past. yes i was a multi, 2 years ago, and at the time i thought i had a good reson to justify my mistake. now i know i made a mistake and i stand by it. my punishment is just. i lost my respect both with players and admin of this game. i desrve that, but this is not about me, it is about the game,it is about the way players threat eachother.

(now if TO members want to prove my case for me, by all means... go ahead, spam, swear, but if you understand anything about being a gentelman, anything about honer and fair competition, you too will support this fourm)

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[ This Message was edited by: MightyGod on 2005-02-27 03:33 ]

[Guest]

Well times change.

[Guest]

Well times change.

[Mag]

Well said...I think ???? On some things I certainly agree with you. Not too sure about the 80% joining TO however, I'll put in my 2 cents worth anyhow.
I don't post often however I do read the forum regularly. As I have said before, it's very much like reading the equivlant to the JERRY SPRINGER Show.
The fighting,swearing and name calling is definitely "high school" at best and it remains a great source of amusement. As a result though, I have very little respect for many of the players, not that they give a flying fuck ! (yea, I swear as well. Just try not to when the forum isn't censored)
I've noticed that not too many players in this game that post seem very honourable and there is no such thing as chivilery. However...MightyGod (your name sucks, denotes arrogance)...I have also met some players that are worth knowing as well and I do believe they are honourable. You just don't see them post as who wants to be lumped in with the Jerry Springer crowd!
I make an exception in this case only due to the nature of your comments and observations and you are brave enough to post them.
I don't play the forum game or the IRC game either. I stand alone and have no interest in conversing with the trash-talk that goes on, and have no allegence to anyone but my alliance buddies. Those I trust impeccably. You don't see them post either. When enough experience is gained, and time spent finding the "right people", an alliance can be built that can cause considerable competition to anyone in the game.
You are just looking in the wrong places!

[concour]

didn't this rebellion against TO already happen

[Protoss246]

Well I know this isn't much and that I am only one person but...I will never join an alliance that uses such methods no matter how powerful or dangerous they are.

[kamekaze6]

TO is gonna break up, the core will remain there (shade base turiana) and some members also, i think gorthmog and db will leave to start species, maybe they take some more with them not sure. then there ll be a third alliance, i hope that i can make a 3 way battle between the alliances and we ll all be duking it out with each other, i think that it could be fun to see the top 3 alliances with no naps not working together just bashing the hell out of eachother

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[kandos-]

@mightygod...

i agree in your cause, please create an alliance to war with us. in the past few weeks, all i have been doing is flying around looking for ape... quite boring.

i need someone to concentrate my efforts on. to hell bend my entire gaming time to bringing them down, rather than flying mindlessly around the galaxy.

i rely in my alliance, i trust my allliance. they are the best bunch of people i have ever played with. so much fun to go to war with. i can only be happy in this game, knowing that when ever i am in need, they will always be there, to pull me through.

i am sorry but i will restate my pladge...

martini / kandos / mk-dude of cannon fodder is
=!TO!= and i will always be...
=!TOTALY TOTAL OWNAGE!=

i rest my case...

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[doomstar]

@MightyGod

I agree that certain members of TO have a tendency to swear, but that is no reason to assume the rest of us do.

Also, what proof do you have that TO members hacked the accounts of their enemies, other than gossips and stories.

Lastly, please spell correct between "they're" vs "there" and "their" vs "there".

"TO members ... no longer seem to be willing to give their position at any price, they swear, they spam, they lie, they accuse, and from what i've heard, they have even hacked the accounts of their enemies in the past"

[Guidop]

well
i agree on verry verry much what mister mighty said
although his name is that verry much arrogant i'll nevver join some like he proposed
but maybe it was just the idea to get everybody's attention but still name is to arrogant

the plan of bringing more respect back to players would be apreciated by me
we can fight everybody and damn if you losse but thats all
it a game of honour so multies suck but its easy to take care of them just in game

and well mister mighty the changes in ST you like to see will soon happen
not that i know how or when but just my feelings say it and they are not
often wrong

i just hope i can be part of that and have the fun thats in the competition
so good luck in your try but don't make the same mistake like in the past and multi again

just be a honourble and active player and in that way try to make the game more interesting
not only for the experienced players but also for the newbe's
and than the universe will grow and more players will stay
so it's getting more interesting again

well i try to make it more interesting thats why i on this moment also never will think about joining TO although they are nice guy's and a girl
and i'm not that experienced but verry active and in that way i learn faster how to play

good luck in you battle to make spacetrace more chalenging

greetz

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[DarthMother]

First of all, this is another lame topic with a lot of bullshit in it e.g. the hacking stuff. The admins should know that too, they made the game and it's hard to hack accounts. I tried to run special programms on it before i posted this msg and 9 out of 10 I couldn't even hack my own account, it's nearly impossible, then you have to be a very practised PC- and internet-user to do it. Password resolves don't work in here, the server is well secured so I can tell that that is bullshit. I hacked a lot of company's for a test. I earned a lot of money with it, cause they hired me to do it so I could secure it better.

Second of all, the irc stuff: they are being so arrogant because you started the flame-war on irc. You came it with your ego. Now i can say that Shade has a fucking ego... Compared with you, he got nothing.

Third of all, forum: yeah TO-people are much online, and much on irc, so what, many members are very frequent in the forum, not only TO members, kame, weylyn, elder for example, they post much too, don't judge TO-people on that.

Fourth of all, there are some good upcoming alliances, like WoC, TO seriously hopes that they grow well, there are good players in it now, and we all ope they gain some other good players to become a good fight-challenge. If some other alliances are coming back it should be even better, this penitician haven't been a challenge from the start, a couple of bashes and bangings and attacks on TO and it was over, it just wasn't fun. The game needs more challenging, ok, that I agree, but TO doesn't excist out of all SERIOUS good players, just players who know the game, nothing more. If someone would read the manual well and try a lot of fleet-setups they would see to with what you have to fight against what, etc.

Fifth of all, kame please stop thinking, they is no clue that TO is gonna fall apart, if one members leaves to restart something old, that doesn't mean that more members go with him or go anywhere else.

Sixth of all, nobody who knows MightyGod will listen to him, they don't respect him, all the people who respected him earlier are gone, for the players that are left now old or new, he is just another multi who is trying to destroy the game. Above all HE is telling about fun in the game. Multying isn't fun, it's dispicable. It's the lowest kind of cheating to win.

Last of all: the newbies, TO is trying to keep the newbies from bashing by some alliances who get turned on by that i think. I won't say names but everyone, incl. the admins know about who i am talking about, that's why i SERIOUSLY want that parallel universe, it just sucks this way, new players are scared away by that, and we only wanna gain new players, new good players, new challenges, that is fun, not let them be bashed by some alliances!!!!!

I hope I made my points this time

Greetz,

DarthMother

[promethius2]

This topic is very good. And i have highlighted these problems myself before.
http://forum.spacetrace.com/viewtopic.php?topic=3584&forum=20

But yes, it is a serious problem. The game has gotten so boring lately. Its all "little" alliances fighting amongst themselves and 1 superpower the controls the game, that frightens people. The superpower frightens them and they will not fight. Only togethor could total ownage have been destroyed.
But now tere is a cease fire. Which basically means both sides acknowledged the others power and both said there is nothing that we can gain from this conflict only losses.
I dont really see any rebellions coming up in the near future (at least not from the pentician, we are in a cease-fire after all) So maybe a new faction can take the fight to Total Ownage. whats that "impossible" "suicide" oh dear, the guys with no balls are back again. Ah well!!
Well anyway, all i am going to say is this.
We need the following to happen.
1. Most of the Non-Original Good Total Ownage players to leave
2. Some of those players to join new factions such as Nazgul, Species Woc And space academy.

Then we can all have a large Galactic War and beat the crap out of each oter.
We need to have it like old times, where 2 or three alliances allied with each other to fight another powerful faction.
For the moment there is nothing that the other aliances can do right now, so it is up to Total Owange themselves.
Perhaps it is this, why the number of spacetracians is on the decrease????

And God, just a few things i would like to correct you on.

First of all, yes Total Ownage do swear, but we all do. Every one of us. A world without curses, what do you want this to be like, runescape where we have to find new ways to spell words? No i dont think that that is necessary. The world is changing and curses are becoming more and more acceptable.
However, maybe if admin were to moderate more of the vulgar words such as "cunt" and "faggot"

Second of all, i have never EVER eard of Total Ownage hacking accounts, and listen to ME old timer, i know Total Ownage much better than you. You were gone doing whatever business in real life while i watched them rise, and become a powerful alliance, a respectable aliance.
However, I have heard of n00b bashing and much of it does go on. But once again, we are all guilty of that. Except me (lol, i did it once or twice )



And lastly god, you said that "all the previous rebellio0ns against Total Ownage failed" Well once again yu are wrong. Because once again you only came back for the end of the rebellion. The rebellion as basically set up to destroy or maybe even weaken Total Ownage. And to be honest it showed me somethng that ibthought was impossible. We took tere flag many times. They wet down to second place, we had there captve for a long time and if they had not used lou as a spy they probably would not have getting it back, and Total Ownae, that is the truth.
So in my eyes, the rebelllion was a success, because it showed me that Total Ownage is not as strong as they appear to be. However, to Total Ownage i guess it would also appear to be a success. Therefore the rebellion helped everyone on all sides.

But anyway back to the topic in question. Total Ownage, need to split up. Not to be destroyed, just weakened. And if they want to keep 1st place they may. Just as long as there are other alliances that have some sort of Chance to take 1st place. In other words. We need more than 1 superpower in this galaxy!

[JaM]

[JaM]

I don't think the admin should 'solve' this problem or that the alliance TO should forced solve by an agreement, because that will not work. Players choose their alliance and that is it. It is a result of the never ending round and you take it or leave it.
True, both ways the game gets boring, but so it is.

[-Ares-]

JaM has spoken...
@promethius2 I like the idea of a great space battle, every alliance should join. You can choose 2 sides; -TO- and allied forces or the Rebellions. They should meet at an open spot in the galaxy. If TO wins they stay at the number 1 spot. If the rebellion wins -TO- will shut down.

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[case]

i must speak now, i am docile atm so maby i wont be too rude
this just looks like another excise in anti to propiganda from the allmighty god, my hate for him comes from 1 year ago in lxg. now i swear he was/is banned. and hope he will be again. i think the game is better without him.

of course to will come to an end, not in the way kame thinks but im sure it will. and it will split into probaly 3 groups: gorths project, woc and other small alliences. but i think gods way of doing it is very wrong, any newbe joining that will not play spacetrace properly he/she will end up not knowing an allience as frends with a leader. he/she will end up knowing there 'dictator' and the subjects of the allince

grrrrr

[Guest]

Hey I like the sound of that..A great battle to end a great war, talk about adding excitement to the game. Also Prometheus2 I'm interested in joining the Nazgul.

[Protoss246]

I would gladly put the forces I have no matter how small I have to a cause like that. Bringing down TO would mean bringing back excitement to ST. Oh, and prometheus can you send me a comm message about joining the Nazgul. My comm is -Ruler: Shinzonn -Planet: Proton

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[promethius2]

ROFL

1. I dont play this game right now, i'll be back in July
2. Nazgul is currently Dormant and are still waiting to own Spacetrace.
3. I dont think Kame would be too happy if he heard you guys asking me to join. I was in charge of Neo-Nazgul, the same alliance, yes, but it came to its height in power after the experienced members left. And we did ok too.

But guys, Nazgul aint open atm, and i dont think i'll be da leader of it for a long long time.