The Triumvirate

[hell_fire]

ya know what there mr stardoom the concour guy did this so that we woudl start a war with total ownage altough if it happens yes i would be ready but i wont fight a dear freind so i will leave if war errupts between us and join my actual friend in the game

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[hell_fire]

sorry to say this methi but stardoom is not our leader but yes he has declared peace between us and total ownage and has said that there has never been a slight thought of us going to war with them where people get these ideas makes me ray......sick

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[concour]

I did not say i wanted a war with TO, i would rather have them as an allie. When i opened this topic, it was to recurit more members

[concour]

we are still recruiting, all that we ask is that you particapate in the alliance's plans, do not backstab us, and that you have a score of at least 0

[hell_fire]

do not backstab us like you backstab or leader just because he messed up on one attack code that did not work for you you wanted to vote him out so you could be a one person leading alliance not three...... i will miss him and in days i will join him

[maverick]

I'm with you hell fire...
This is the way concour works. I remember a long time ago, on a different account. I joined his alliance Borg Empire. He was everything except Flag Commander (the one put in the most danger in wars). How cowardly. Anyway...I joined this alliance hoping it would be different. I will cooperate as long as I am a member, but as soon as I have somewhere else to go, I'm leaving. Hopefully to join Hell fire and Raynor
The Maverick

[ This Message was edited by: maverick on 2004-12-16 19:45 ]

[promethius2]

Hell_fire is maverick
Raynor, i cannot beleive this!!!!!
You are a friend of mine but look what you have done!
The triumvirate is breaking up!
Lets face it Raynor! You screwed up.
You never updated the leader message.
I continued to think that the attack code was templar when it was actuall y changed TWICE!
Raynor, if you are to blame this on concour, then why don't we all vote fenix leader?
Because you lost the election! You leave!
Tell me if you were president in your country and you screwed up and in the next election you lost, would you leave that country?
I think not!
Raynor, I am not angry with you but am trying to help you!
And for the sake of the riumvirate and the Pentician alliance accept it! Come back, and be a normal member!
Or leave, but if you do so do not "invite" everyone else to follow you!
Maverick, come back do not follow the former leader.
If the president that you voted for lost the election in your country and left that country would you follow him?
I think not.
Do not cause the triumvirate to falll Raynor! For if it does there will be a party at your base.
As i said before, i am not angry, i am just trying to help you and am speaking my mind.

[maverick]

Promethius, the fact is that I do not believe that any one person should hold more than one position in an alliance, it then becomes a dictatorship. We have the choice to follow or not. But when one person holds every position except the one that holds the most potential danger, I cannot see how that person will be a good leader, he obviously wants all the power and none of the risk, I do not see those as qualities of a great leader. I may or may not join raynor, I think it is most likely not. I don't know him that well, he has asked me to spy for him and I am very uncomfortable with that. But I cannot approve of concour's appointing himself as MoC, CoW, and is the leader of this alliance. I am willing to stay awhile longer, but I do not feel that I can follow him with my whole heart. I am truly sorry. I give my best to you and thank you for your adament feelings towards my staying or going. I want to be a part of this alliance, but not under a dictator.

The Maverick

[concour]

just to let you know maverick, Hell_Fire and Raynor are the same person

[ This Message was edited by: concour on 2004-12-16 21:20 ]

[promethius2]

Btw maverick, I am now the Minister of communication.
The reason why concour is both leaer and CoW is so he can monitor our fleets.
I have no problm with ANY leader being a Commander of war.
Would you agree?
I think this whole mess has been sorted out now.
Raynor has left and i have replaced him (to a certain degree)
I feared that the Triumvirate would break up but i was wrong.
It appears we are stronger than i thought.......

[promethius2]

Oh lol maverick, it appears that concour has apointed someone else as CoW. He is now only leader.
Mess completely sorted!

[hell_fire]

promethius to let you know i am not dissagreeing with you on the fact that i did mess up but i told every one of you the new attack code in seperate messages because we had a spy that we were going to be disposing in a short time so if he had the same attack code as all of us our attacks would have never worked cause his ac would be the same and i know for a fact i sent a message to every one that was in the alliance about the new attack code and i kept the one in the alliance menu the same so that diablo the spy would not know......if you are confused just ask

[concour]

the only reason i was all 3 was becuase i just found out that i was the new leader, and that raynor left the allaince, so i was given teh posisition because he left by default. i have cahnged it, i am now only in the leader posistion

[concour]

now Hell_fire, why did you not update the alliance message
fall to tell us the new alliance password when you cahnged it, and why was Ceaser and you attacking my base if we were suppose to all ahve the same attack-code. also Ceaser and i did have the correct attack-code for we both had the same one, and the one we had was the one you kept on giving me when evey i asked you what the attack-code.

[concour]

you have also did not even think anout ideas for the alliance that the both me and fenix were telling you.

[promethius2]

Already, raynor our alliance page has been updated THREE times lol.

[hell_fire]

you and fenix never told me any of your ideas you two kept it all to your self and i told you why personaly why i did not tell you the new password concour....it was to prevent you and derek from letting in new members that all thee of us would talk about first but i guess you forgot that from the beging like you both forgot that the alliance was supposed to be the borg empire and the soa joing the nsk but we changed the name so that it would fit all of us more guess you forgot many things....and so what if one attack code did not work either did the one fenix gave to us......xel'naga....rember that....



methi i left the alliance for another reason it was not cause concour won the election infact when i left he was loosing i left because of other reasons then that....the main one was the tri in triumvirate was become between only two leaders not three

last message for good

bye every one

[promethius2]

Nay, Raynor Tri had become one.
You were the only dictator we ever had.
But i do not blame you. If i were leader of such an alliance the power would drive me mad.
I would probably end up conspiring against the oter two members for al human beings want power.
That is why i would never accpet to be a leader of triumvirate.
MoC maybe, CoW maybe Flag Commander maybe but not leader, i would consider myself superior to the other two.
And that would destroy T^3.
But i swore i would never let it fall i swore it would stand at least until i reach my own doom....
Goodbye Raynor- It appears youve been counted out.
The big boys don't want to play with you anymore .......

[STARDOOM]

The first problem I have with Hell_fire's accusations would be the fact that you claim that myself and Concour were conspiring against you...Promethius was right...you being "leader" made you see things differently...just like the ring in The Lord of the Rings...hmmm. We originally agreed that combining our 3 alliances was the best thing for us...so that we could use the TWN and travel between planets easily...

Before we even merged we stated: When we merge we will have to make sure that one us us 3 had the leader position to prevent someone from taking control of our alliance and banning us. We agreed that "Leader" was superficial and did not give that person any control above the others or their former members.

Before we merged you agreed that this was to be. But now you made it seem like you needed the posistion of leader to prevent Concour from "taking over"!!! What kind of mockery is that? we are friends why would we do such a thing?

Again I refer to the US presidentcy... The president can only be in term for 4 years before an election is held...if he is re-elected he gets 4 more but thats it for him...its to prevent another Napoleon or Hitler. Dictatorship the Triumvirate is not...there is a voting system that can prevent this from happening at all times...all it takes is a few votes.

You also claim that we plotted behind your back to de-thrown you from "Leader" even though the title was insignificant in our alliance. But we never did plot against you nor did we secretly have people vote against you...we did it openly. There was no plotting involved! You say that we betrayed you/stabbed you in the back, even when you can't provide any evidence of us doing so nor convert anyone to your side you seek to stab us in the back also...what makes you any better??? Especially considering how we never plotted against you?

Seems like you have held the "ring" for a little toooo long and have begun to turn into "Raynor/Gollum"

You need to be understanding about cutting "leadership" short...even though "Leader" was priorly meant to mean only the alliance screen moderator...but to you it meant more...to you it meant power.

You feared that Concour would be a dictator...lol remember how it would only take a quick vote to dethrown one...making it far from a dictatorship. Plus Triumvirate is a form of Roman Government that refered to 3 caesar like men working together.

I don't particularly see why you got overly mad about it...considering how we already have...in fact we are planning a small Halo 2 party at Concour's house tomorrow...come if you wish...Spacetrace will not be a topic of discussion...we will be too busy killing each other. If you have any deep hatred for us because of these events then just "Tea-Bag" us trust me it relieves stress!

We still want you to return and eventually be the leader again as we have already refined our voting system so that an official vote will be held every 4 months to prevent another incident. If you are good to your people than they will follow you just like every well-known medieval times hero.

I appolgize for causing you any uneasyness...but you know why I shouldn't have to.

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En Taro Adun!
-=Fenix=-

[promethius2]

The best thing that we can do for this alliance is actually make it a democracy.
Perhaps the admin could create a democracy for spacetrace and everyone can choose what sort of government.
Or maybe he can do us a favour for christmas lol and give us a present of democracy.
Raynor, we do not hate you, nor even dislike you. We just felt that the alliance was not un properly.
I will open a topic immediaely about democracy and see if it can get accepted.
Today, the triumvirate alliance lost a member, a leader even. And because of that it nearly collapsed.
In fact it reminded me of the civil war in ireland for a time.
We must make a democracy! For if the rankings are to stay like this then it will surely happen again.
We cannot stop the hman beings want for power......
But if we make all human beings equal then everyone already has power.