Capture the Flag

[blackmagic]

I was just asking because if it the points were being claimed from the alliance net score than i would rather quit and lose my own 20% than the alliance's 20%. So i'm right about the points being taken only from the leader?

[Lab-rat]

Well Shade isn't that the benefit of being an active/organised alliance
be creative , attack all there bases , your alliance has more members than most of the other alliances that should be an advantige I think

[Shade]

You seem to miss the point lab-rat, Sure it's possible for my alliance we are big, active and organised. i didn't bring this point up to benefit TO.

but for the average players and the smaller alliances, it is a clear disadvantage and is a major flaw in game play.


@blackmagic, no the points are taken from every member of the alliance. it's not 20% of the alliances score, it is 20% of each players score(that are + scores) in the alliance. therefor the actual amount of points taken can be more than 20% of the alliances over-all score.

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[ This Message was edited by: Shade on 2004-09-20 01:59 ]

[Spyder]

Ah, that is sort of correct, but, the other thing is, if your alliances flag has been captured, and you decide to leave the alliance, you lose 20percent yourself. I believe we received 20 percent of one point that way

[KEPcH]

Indeed a delay would be needed. Although I don't mind since we're the one stealing it.

[limsky]

The delay should be proportional to the number of alliance members. 1 day for every three alliance members.
Scenario:
1. The new leader is most likely a dummy who is new and the planet had few neighbours. Therefore asking around or build alliance Invader, organise an attack OR build wide-range scan probe to find it may take a lot of time.
2. An alliance of 15 members getting a flag from an alliance of 3 members is easy. Just send 5 members to attack each member. The flag is guaranteed. For the alliance of 3 members to get their flag back from an alliance of 15 members is impossible.
Suggestion: Different classes of Alliance.
Class 1 is 3 to 5 members.
Class 2 is 6 to 8 members.
Class 3 is 9 to 12 members.
Class 4 is more than 13 members.
Alliance can only get the flag from alliance in the same class.

[KEPcH]

Balrogs flag has been stolen and they outnumber everyone. I've stolen a flag alone from an alliance bigger than ours. But i kinda understand. Only big alliances go for the flags, true. But we won't attack small alliances (unless they have a massive score).

[kokomonk]

i think its cool

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[limsky]

[Shade]

no we just take Ape Empires flag because they are assholes

and no there will not be a third time.
The reason being that they are pussies, and their plan is to Devide Ape Empire up into a few smaller alliances of only 2 members, so that they can continue to attack us but we won't be able to steal their flags.

How pathetic are these guys?? lmao
multies used to be braver.

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[ This Message was edited by: Shade on 2004-10-06 17:56 ]

[KEPcH]

@Limsky: Don't talk if you don't know. I stole their flag the first time when they had twice the amount of members we did. And if I get a chance, yes, i will steal it a third time.

[jazzy]

I think Shade's idea is well worth having a look at and I think Kepch should take the flag a third time...whyever not lmao

[limsky]

[KEPcH]

Seems like i'm talkin to one of those fools again... ok, here it goes:
I never tried to steal Balrogs' flag, where did you read that? Don't invent stuff would you? Why would i steal it? i said i stole the flag of the apes when they outnumbered us 2 to 1. I also said balrogs's flag has been stolen, but not by us, fool. And if they would be a bit organised, it shouldn't be a problem for them to get it back, whoever has it. Is that getting through to you?
And yes we started with stealin just when it started, someone has to, right? Might as well be the best that lead the way.

[mackman]

Who cares about ape empire they are multi cheaters and just about everyone knows it why would anyone take the side of them just click on some of the members they already are convicted.All they need to do is delete the multi accounts and then maybe they might get some respect.

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[limsky]

This new idea of Capture the Flag certainly favours the Big alliance. Look at what my DSP displayed at the base from Kever The Friend:
base from Kever The Friend of New Finland
50 21 1 5
fleet 1 from Kever The Friend of New Finland
0 0 14 0
fleet 2 from Kever The Friend of New Finland
126 161 0 0
fleet 1 from Darmadon....... of Dremples.........
853 1 1 1
fleet 2 from Darmadon....... of Dremples.........
0 25 1 1
fleet 3 from Darmadon....... of Dremples.........
0 0 26 1
fleet 1 from Bloodraven of The Dark Forest
2498 28 4 1
fleet 1 from Coolrunner of West Indies
1 523 0 1
fleet 1 from Hanus of Lovtusia
2 500 1 1
fleet 2 from Hanus of Lovtusia
1 2 6 1
fleet 1 from KEPcH- of Tsunamii
2325 4 3 1
fleet 2 from KEPcH- of Tsunamii
985 8 6 1
fleet 1 from wicked witch of weepin willows
0 406 0 1
fleet 2 from Pacos of Imperium
1527 289 6 2
fleet 2 from Shade of Capetonia
0 0 10 1
fleet 1 from Sicard of The Hood
1561 109 32 1
fleet 1 from Sola of Tha System
0 0 44 1
fleet 1 from Tyrese of Octogon
0 0 44 1
fleet 2 from Tyrese of Octogon
0 0 2 1
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Without asking around we can tell who is the leader with the flag.
How could any smaller alliance (however well organised)send enough fleets to defeat them?
You require 19 doomstars. Each player have enough manpower to produce+deliver one doomstar. So 19 alliance members had to hit together. (Note not all races can produce doomstar.)

[mackman]

No Dude 19 Doomstars?C`mon man you have been playing this game long enough to know you can build better fleets than that to get thru.Even a small alliance with a bit of brains and alot of luck could get it back so I thing CTF is fair and the likley hood of a large alliance attacking a small alliance to steal the flag probably wont happen often anyway -TO- and hsa are of comparable size.

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[doomstar]

@mackman, agree with you, but I believe TO has a slight advantage over HSA in term of player.

[jazzy]

Quality...not Quantity...make's an alliance a winning alliance...If we, as Total Ownage had fifteen lousy players, we'd be nowhere....so Doomstar...TO presents just a wee bit of Quantity and a Helluva lot of Quality...LOL...and Quantity is for Free...But Quality you have to earn !!!

Turiana


[ This Message was edited by: jazzy on 2004-10-15 09:28 ]

[Dutchbatter]

well spoken turiana.

Quality, all you need

And sometimes a bit of quantity and luck

But the brain is the best weappen.

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[ This Message was edited by: Dutchbatter on 2004-10-15 15:32 ]