warthog

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warthog (class 1 ship)

this ship has a special hull coting , so its hull looks very scraggly (therefore its name). this active armor coting makes it invincible for spectre and cyclops shots.
it has a powerfull gun , but it is ineffective against class 1,2,4 and standart cruisers


attack/life: 5/1
manpower: 2

researchtime: 1 d
buildingtime: 12 h


human-technology
needed research:
science recycle methods

battle details:fights
(battle engine syntax: f)
battle engine syntax: trigger_0_destroy@
battle engine syntax: trigger_0_plus@


[ This Message was edited by: spacetrace on 2004-01-30 17:25 ]

[spacetrace]

i invented this ship because i think it is needed . What do you think ?

[darkwolf]

the kamis are not enough??
i mean, spectre and cyclops i suppose that are the best weapons against kamis.. you want to give more power to the humans??

i really dunno...

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[spacetrace]

the race is secundary . eray would be nice too

[ This Message was edited by: spacetrace on 2004-01-30 17:59 ]

[Ransack]

too strong 5/1 for 2 mp, hmmm maybe a 2/2 if you want a ship invincible for spectre and cyclops shots you have the blockade runner 2mp and 1ap/2lp

[Lou of East from West]

so it attack class 3 ships, but not cruisers?
Could u explain battle situtation, little bit.
It attack class 3 allways or only if enemy fleet is 0/0/x/x?


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[steven1982]

I think it would be a very nice add to the game!
it is low on mp, but hard to use i think (that is if it not directly attack class 3, but only if you whiped out lower classes) and also it does not effect normal cruisers
Add it to the game, i'll use it!

Greets

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[Tofu]

My opinion:
-remove the shockwave from the dreadnought!
-weaken the effect of the spectre!

Those ships offer no challenging combinations, but they make a lot of combinations useless.

[Ransack]

i think the this ships is another version of blockade runner and 5 ap/1lp for 2 mp is too strong, interceptors can't destroy this ship, and 2 warthog can destroy any class 2 and only for 2 mo each, too strong... 2ap or max 3

[ This Message was edited by: Ransack on 2004-01-31 05:45 ]

[Rubens]

sorry but i thin is bad, i mean u can change some thing in diferent types, like 5/2 and cant attack all the standard ships(still be inmune to spectres...etc), or 5/2 and can attack the class2 and class 3(with or without the cruseirs) or can only attack the standard ships... but i really think will be powerfull if attack the class 4 ships... but like you invented is so powerfull, can destroy bulkfighters, well them cant cuz dont attack class 1, but u need a perfect battle situation, like an enemy:
0/0/10/1, so the class 3 ships can be dreads, shocks, warcrusers, and you can win or lose, for that is balanced, but
if the enemy have cyclops is good,
but why is good if is inmune vs the spectre?
because, if u'll use this ship, u never want fight vs spectres, cuz cant attack them, the same thing if u have a spectre, ur warthog will not destroy by your own spectre, but is useless cuz, them will destroy by the class 1 of the enemy... u cant attack, class 1 and class 2? i think u can do some changes but exist diferents mode...

i can be wrong in all but i'm sure of
the e-rays need ships class1, likes the humans, ships class 2, and the mycioloyd class3 if u can put someones...

[We are Bjork]

The ship is nice, but, perhaps a bit powerful, or, incexpensive, not sure. I dont think cyclops cause as much trouble as the spectre, because they are harder to use, and have a higher cost than what they destroy most of the time.

This ship would also be effective against interceptors. but yes, I would build em if I could. I can already think of some nice combos for em.

[masterp]

i think it's balanced!
nice invention !

@ransack: for u as kazuuula it is bad! but you have the penguins and they are not balanced!

Greetings
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[Ransack]

you r rigth kazuuula have penguins but the need 1) improved computer technology 2)improved targeting 3) science recycle methods 4) penguin ( this ships is mycilloids and take 5 days to reseach to kazuuula, so i if kazuula have penguins muts wait some weeks

is too strong dont thing about if you like that ship on your fleet thing about if you have 3 fleets on 2000/1/1/1 attacking you at the same time, how you can protec your base...

use kamis or blockade runers

warthog should be 3ap/1lp inmune to spectre interceptors and cyclome attacks for 2 mp or maybe 3 mp

[steven1982]

[omarrus]

i realy like this its all evan, it also stops your enomy from using good class 3 ships

i vote {yes}

[Rubens]

USELESS

[darklim]

An useless ships
Inmune but don't do anything
A little fighter is more than enough to stop 5000 of these

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[Ransack]

sorry ok i dont read this

[JaM]

This ship will also be immune against the interceptors. But like some of the players already saw that the class 3 is unbalanced against class 1. Also spacetrace mentioned that this ship is needed.
But like tofu said I think the problem should not be found not only in the class 1 but in the class 3.
The spectre is too strong, but if you use the spectre you can't use class 1.
The dreadnought on the other hand is disastrous for class 1. (The best counter for only dreads fleets is 500 destroyers which win you like 2000 till 3000 points.)

I like this ship. Maybe the ap a little bit less. And make this ship eray, because the humans already have the commondo fighter and the mosquito.

[limsky]

I require 20 of these ships to kill apollo cruiser, cyclopses. 40 to kill plague ships and 100 to kill dreadnoughts.
If you have 100 ships which have 500 hit points and the opponent have 1 dreadnought which can destroy 25 class 1 ships. You will gain 375-25x2=325 points. Is it balanced? When you use Kami or Penguin you have to clear class 1 and class 2 ships. This ship hit class 3 directly. Is it too powerful?