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do you think god exists
yes
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no
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maybe
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who cares
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 Post Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:25 pm    Post subject:
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this is a verry strange subject, but i found out in my many years, many people from all walks of life do think about these things about 50+ times during there life. wether it be, them talking to them selfs about how unfair life can be at times, or thay are a Quantum mechanic. people are allways Questioning the meaning of life, i have learned many things over the years

ps. spelling is not one of them

like the Microscopic Existence of worm holes/cracks in the fabric of time to the Chaos thery.

well i beleve that it is helthy to get your idears problems of your chest, so i have setup this chat to do ezactly that,

of corse any Quantum mechanics are welcome, and evry ones vews are welcome, the only thing i ask of you

make sore you have things to backup your opions
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 Post Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:48 pm    Post subject:
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Well God exists, or exited...
He was a multy so admins deleted his accounts...
u can mail him to
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, I think. Yo ex-LXG, correct me if I'm wrong.

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 Post Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:51 pm    Post subject:
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lol i ment the real world not ST but i think he still does, ive seen some of his posts

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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:13 am    Post subject:
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Well i have some ideas, but i don't think that this is the right place to write them down.

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LoL yeah i think he was

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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 2:58 am    Post subject:
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what is the question?
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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 7:37 am    Post subject:
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He was a multi and he never comes back
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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 11:55 am    Post subject:
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@Skyfreak, the main question is if you do believe that God exists, the topic of this is not about "Mighty" that was a joke.


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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 5:15 pm    Post subject:
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lol it was susosed to be about an agony aunt, sorof a thing aswell as taking about things because your board.

o well, talking of jokes why are the abc aliance at rock bottem, and the borg colective rain suprime
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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 5:21 pm    Post subject:
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ABC at rock bottom??
Well illuminati dropped because some members left (like me) But the majority has started over again and are now in nazgul (which is above the borg collective )
And by rejoining the points are reduced to zero.
So that is why, in the near future you will see a lot of other top alliances drop down because of this.

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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 5:28 pm    Post subject:
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I don't believe a God excists, we don't have any proof of it (or maybe he is sleeping for 10.000.000.000 years, and won't wake up anytime soon ). Personally I think Quantum Mechanics currently gives the best view of the universe, and maybe in the future, super-string-theory will take over.

The main reason I don't believe in any God is that, in this world, there are so many Gods, in ancient times there were even more. And most of them were only created to dominate the people or to enrich the diety's church. (most murders are because of religion ).

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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:16 pm    Post subject:
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this is what i also think.
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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject:
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If we going to discuss anyway
I believe the same thing partly, i believe that those multiple god's did exist (or still do) But in what form they are, that is the question, like in ancient books you frequently read that the god's had flying houses and some really advanced technology, if you read it today it is almost a science fiction book (especially the mahabrhahatta (dunno if i spell it right)) But the people of that days didn't know that technologie and had to discribe it in their own words what they saw.
It is only a opinion and i do not know if i am right, but the possibility is there, that the god's were only technologicly advanced "aliens" (hate to use that word, brings strange pictures of little grey men).
So i am not totally sure what they are (were).
But there are a lot of unexplained things out there that may be very easy to explain, but i think that the problem is that we don't want to know that.
People need to go to church sometimes, and have hope, they don't want to know that everything they have build their lives on and believed in is something like that.

I don't say it is true, but there are many things which make you think.
For me it is just the most exeptable picture.

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 Post Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:27 am    Post subject:
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God is a man made idea constructed to manipulate the masses. Look at the USA where I live. This country is totally fucked up by religion. Please send donations to help restore freedom to the United States. The meaning of life is: you are born, you play SpaceTrace, you die. That is it.

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Americans are asking money, on-line. And I thought we on Balkan are low.

Btw: Church is mafia with over 2000 expirience.

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 Post Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:36 pm    Post subject:
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is it me or are the "american" idears a joke

take this for example. freedom to all men
what is this all about there are all ways going to be people who do more inportant jobs than other people, does it meen that we all have equll = rights. rubish, if you live in the slums 80% of the time you will dye there, if = rights and freedom were reel dont you think that people would all move outa the area

the star trek idear would not exist on this planet
example one we have not been contacted by a alian race
example two people at the top that would stand to loos a lot by geting rid of any trace of a curency, and thay are the only people who could change any think
example three the world is devided up by difrent idears so if one got rid of monney there would be caos

the only thing that will be shore is that when the time comes we will all do the right thing, to save our children
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steven1982 do you have the abilaty to get at the books to see whether any invenshion that that described has any coneshion with our stuf, like tv or radio

i know that there is a book(s) were a farsayers had "seen" the future, like computers and big future events
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Hmm there maybe are, i will look up a quote for you from the mahabrhahata, and you form your own idea about it, but then always remember that the book has been written over 5000 years ago, and is speaking about "houses" that fly, there is even spoken of "spacestations" that are far away from earth.

The one who writes the book discribes it something like this (better quotes will follow):

And when we travel i see that the lights at the sky (stars) that look so small, are actually enourmous.

That is a sentence when he discribes his journey into the city of the gods, as i said, i will post better translations here. I have to translate it myself into english, so i will paste the original dutch text here also, so that any dutch readers can fill me in with translation or take out any mistakes i make.

Greets

Most of the books i was talking about, i have, at home. It will just take me some more time to translate them.
But i don't have books that speak of TV and stuff though i think, but i will search me personal "library" for it.

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 Post Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:42 pm    Post subject:
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Text quoted from the Vana Parva (a part from the Mahabharata) Translated into english by me, i also paste the original dutch translation which i used as a source here, so any translation mistakes by me can be concluded by other dutch people.

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- O gij, Uparicara Vasu, de grote vliegende machine zal naar u toe komen (Hfdst. 63:11-16)

- O thou, Uparicara Vasu, the great flying machine shall come to you (chapter 63:11-16)

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- O gij, nakomeling van de Kuru's, die boosaardige mens kwam met het zelfstandig vliegende vaartuig dat zich overal kan voortbewegen en bekent staat als Saubhapura (Hfdst. 14:15-22)

- O thou, offspring off the Kuru's, the evil men came with the independant flying vessel that can move everywhere and is known as Saubhapura. (chapter 14:15-22)

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- Toen hij uit het zicht van de stervelingen was verdwenen, hoog aan het firmanent, ontwaarde hij duizenden bijzondere luchtwagens. (Hfdst. 42:30-34)

- When he disappeared out of the sight of the mortals, high in the skies, he discovered thousands extraordinary air vessels. (chapter 42:30-34)

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- Hij betrad het goddelijke lievelingspaleis van Indra en zag duizenden vliegende vaartuigen, sommige geparkeerd, andere in beweging. (Hfdst. 43:7-12)

- He entered the devine favourite palace of Indra and saw thousands of flying vessels, some of them parked, some of them moving. (chapter 43:7-12)

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- De groepen van Marut kwamen in goddelijke luchtwagens en Matali nam me mee in zijn vliegende vaartuig en liet me andere luchtwagens zien. (Hfdst. 168:10-11)

- The groups of Marut came in devine airwagons and Matali took me with him in his flying vessel and showed me other flying vessels (chapter 168:10-11)

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- De goden verschenen in hun eigen vliegende vaartuigen om de strijd tussen Kripacarya en Arjuna bij te wonen. Zelfs Indra, de heer des hemels, verscheen met een bijzonder vliegend object en drieëndertig goddelijke wezens. (Hfdst. 274)

- The Gods apeared in their own flying vessels to witness the fight between Kripacarya and Arjuna. Even Indra, Lord of heavens, apeared with a extraordinary flying object and thirtythree devine creatures. (chapter 274)

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- Hij schonk hem een zelfbewegend luchtvaartuig, bekend als Puspaka. (Hfdst. 207:6-9)

- He gave him a selfmoving airvessel, known as Puspaka. (chapter 207:6-9)


I also have some nice quotes on brutal weapons they used with all kind of rays, differnt kinds of electricity they use, instruments to "create" energy, strange kinds of metal used, but not known which they are because they are unable to be translateted from Sanskrit.
These texts are really ancient, so it makes you think what the people who put them down experianced.

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He entered the devine favourite palace of Indra and saw thousands of flying vessels, some of them parked, some of them moving. (chapter 43:7-12)


is parked the word he used, its quite modern i beleve
is indra a frend of his or is it some sorta king
why do thay call them
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and not ships

a vessele is an old word for somthing that you can hold things in
shorly if thay had been around "humans" thay would get to know ther languidge

do thay state how thay got to this "future"
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Indra is the main god, and they don't go to this future, they discribe things that happen.
Hmm on the vessel thing, i just think it is a translation error by myself, in dutch it is a "vaartuig" which means "something you can move in" like for example nowadays a "vaartuig" is used for large ships aswell as airplanes, but it is not used very much in dutch.
Parked however is the word used in the translation i have, i don't know the original word used in Sanskrit and how to properly translate it.


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