veteran players of the game are hurting the player count

[Failtrip1]

[Inatic]

I'm referring to several months ago when I started playing and I was attacked everyday by the same guy, so I quit after 3 days.
Now I', currently playing again...because I thought i might give it another chance because its fun...........and I was just answering ADMINS question....

[T2]

Inatic..thanks for coming back and giving ST a second try. I'm glad you linked up with a team that can give you advice, help and moral support.

If you would have made it known that SOMEONE of SOMEWHERE keeps attacking you, I would be right by your side helping defend, calling out the Noob Basher for what they were and fighting them and hopefully, putting them in the same position as they put you.

Attacking new players is required for a new player to grasp concepts but to rape a new player of every mp they build every day is certainly a cowards way of playing the game.

IF any new player is experiencing this, shout it out in the forums and I'm sure you will have no shortage of help rushing to your base. Especially from such long standing players such as Connor, Failtrip. and quite a few others.
I'll certainly do my best to protect you and make your bashers point gain something a little harder to achieve. Maybe even steal some of their points.

For the record, do you remember the name of the player that was attacking you?

I know some vets have publicly stated they don't care who they hit ( eg: William Wallace) but I think players that adopt that attitude don't do any favors for Space Trace as a whole. This game is not easy to master for a new player and it can discourage any noob's desire to learn the game.

This could also contribute to the lessening of players in the game.

[Failtrip1]

[Inatic]

[colinthecorgi]

Hrmmm *blushes*, I've sort of stomped a guy several times.
Haven't cleaned out his buildings tho....

I offered my advice, no reply.
Offered to get him into a training alliance, no reply.
I gave him some advice anyway, which he adapted but misunderstood
He was p****d, but hey that's life.
I divide my attention between three targets at the moment. And I have hit a more experienced player several times also.
There is only 1 more player in decent range anyway, and I'll visit that planet too.


Now I've let the first guy be for some time, and I'm going to hit him again.
That's the way it is.
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[T2]

[Sparks]

I have to admit to having attacked a newbie or two in the past but usually after I have exhausted battles around where I have been. And I dont think I've 'bashed' them, though I might have attacked again if they were up for the fight.

We've all seen a decline in players and I dont think it can be totally put at the door of vets bashing noobs (this is a war game after all)...and there aint too many players around to pick and choose.

The problem for newbies is they are dealt a blow as soon as they come out of newbie protection and see their score drop into a minus figure (whether they have attacked someone or someone has attacked them). This is what usually turns away most newbies who's psyche cant take that initial blow.

The newbie guilds were created for this purpose, however I dont think they have helped a great deal. The best way to improve and gain knowledge is to join a established alliance or one of the training alliances..


However I do have a suggestion...If I may.......>>>

Is it possible to have some kind of tutorial based battles during newbie protection. We could do this by linking it to the battle simulator. At the moment there is only one simulator. But if we have a dozen or so simulator planets (call them training arenas) where newbies can go battle in safety during newbie protection, it might improve their confidence in the game so they will stay longer (PS newbie protection time may need to be exteneded to help with this). This ofcourse needs development but I hope it is a seed of a good idea???

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[Jack09]

Well DL wrote that she is getting picked on by vets, when her and her alliance were picking on me and my alliance, so who is really dropping the count, the vets who attack then give advice, or the people who just want points and get mad that they dont get them.

The vets in this game are fine, every vet i have ever fought or teamed up with, gave advice and told me more about the game, the vets are fine, blame this problem on something else.

ACCUSATIONS!!!

[Sparks]

I think the gist of the thread has changed a little. The quote by admin of DL is about vet allis against newbie allis. However I think the gist has changed to newbies getting turned away right at the start. If we can grab them here they are more likely to stay on and develop.

But as for alli v alli thing I think that is being discussed in the CTF thread:

http://www.spacetrace.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6563

Oh and in addition to my little suggestion before:

[Durago]

this is not a problem. this is just how the game is played. when i started 9 months ago i got hit on here and there by vets, most were helpful.

trying to say that because an alliance new it should be left alone is silly talk. dont make an alliance and be a la of it if you dont think you can do it, it is not the vets fault.

if you start an alliance and suddenly move into the #1 slot it shows you and your allince know how to play the game.


it would be far to easy to just art new accounts using different emails at signup to avoid ever being considered a vet.


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there are deeper reasons why the noobs keep quitting. it is called player attudes. and they are begining to ruin the game.

too many cheaters that cry about every little thing they dont like, instead of helping to make it a well balanced game.

all this has really started to get old, drawn out and boring.

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why not just shut off the server, format the HD and wr a whole new game with little daisy's and bunnies and a pretty yellow sun, then the game would be perfect!!!! all warm and fuzzy and sweet smelling.




*edit* i need to add this.

[Senor]

[DragonLilly]

@ ADMIN - I see a very serious problem here... This was a combination of our incoming, our newest members DSP and Sensors from his fleet screen... that's 9 fleets from vets attacking a 1st EVO newbie...

alliance incomings:

in the vicinity of PLAYER 1 are foreign fleets detected :
: fleet 1 from Lots of NothinG ETA 2 h 44 m

in the vicinity of PLAYER 1 are foreign fleets detected :
: fleet 2 from Lots of NothinG ETA 2 h 44 m

in the vicinity of PLAYER 1 are foreign fleets detected :
: fleet 3 from Lots of NothinG ETA 2 h 44 m

in the vicinity of PLAYER 1 are foreign fleets detected :
: fleet 1 from Zaphod*Brox of Jaffa*Prime ETA 1 h

in the vicinity of PLAYER 1 are foreign fleets detected :
: fleet 2 from Zaphod*Brox of Jaffa*Prime ETA 59 m

in the vicinity of PLAYER 1 are foreign fleets detected :
: fleet 3 from Zaphod*Brox of Jaffa*Prime ETA 33 m



fleet 2 from The Witness of SilentWatcher
126 2 1 1

fleet 3 from The Witness of SilentWatcher
0 1 0 0

fleet 1 from Zaphod*Brox of Jaffa*Prime
2465 1 6 2

fleet 2 from Zaphod*Brox of Jaffa*Prime
120 1 1 1

fleet 3 from Zaphod*Brox of Jaffa*Prime
0 0 0 1

a cloaking signature of a medium fleet detected at 472/489/34.85




hyperjumpgate detected:
fleet 2 from The Witness of SilentWatcher (ETA 1 h 38 m)
hyperjumpgate detected:
fleet 3 from The Witness of SilentWatcher (ETA 2 h 4 m)
hyperjumpgate detected:
fleet 1 from Zaphod*Brox of Jaffa*Prime (ETA 3 h 8 m)
hyperjumpgate detected:
fleet 2 from Zaphod*Brox of Jaffa*Prime (ETA 3 h 7 m)
hyperjumpgate detected:
fleet 3 from Zaphod*Brox of Jaffa*Prime (ETA 2 h 41 m)

hyperdrop warning:
flight vector passes your planet:
fleet 1 from Lots of NothinG (distance: 8 sectors)
flight vector passes your planet:
fleet 2 from Lots of NothinG (distance: 8 sectors)
flight vector passes your planet:
fleet 3 from Lots of NothinG (distance: 8 sectors)

[Jack09]

Ok listen admin, i havent even evod yet and im holding my own, though it may barely, but someone that has been here over three months and has been with the number 1 alliance is still a noob and cant protect himself, i say get him some help and beat those fleets up and do some stuff that can help him instead of just whining about it.
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[Failtrip1]

On topic:

http://www.google.si/search?hl=sl&q=veteran+players+of+the+game+are+hurting+the+player+count&btnG=Iskanje&meta=



Off topic:
Jack wanna join ToC?All you need to do is have one account.
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[DragonLilly]

Jack... I'd love to see you take on 9 fleets from vets by yourself...

[DragonLilly]

[T2]

This player you speak of...is he a member of an alliance... I'll assume he is part of CGC.
How does it come that he must defend himself BY HIMSELF !
Does this CGC alliance not watch each others backs ?

A battle between the top 2 alliances is what this game is all about IMO.

Get in and help him...don't cry about it .
Poor guy...hope your not throwing him to the wolves !

[Mighty]

ah.. fucking drama queen! go cry me a river and then stop playing..

those fleets are all coming at separate times. you could defend your stupid base against all of them if you had some game and you would not have got them all attacking you in first place if you hadn't asked for it. so next time you open your mouth to say something you regret, remember this night. now go delete you're account and pretend your quitting to get some pity and then open up the new one already.

I've seen your nonsence in 3 different topics today and it's getting pretty fucking annoying.

tell your noob to get out of the top 2 alliance which is in war if he doesn't want any action. best way to learn is by losing. thats how me, T2 and the rest of these idiots all learned the game.
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