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this vote will decide about the future of this invention: |
this can be added to the game |
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it needs some changes but it is a good invention |
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i will post the needed changes here |
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no good try another one |
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tec_server Technology Bot
Joined: 04 Nov 2002 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:29 am Post subject: shockwave destroyer mkii |
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shockwave destroyer mkii (class 2 ship)
creates a shockwave causing 1 damage to 10 enemy ships.
alternatively could include the drawback of dealing 1 damage to two of your own with a lowered mp of 9.
attack/life: 0/10
manpower: 11
researchtime: 1 d
buildingtime: 11 h
e-ray-technology
needed research:
improved targeting
battle details:fights
(battle engine syntax: f)
modifies AP/LP by 0/-1 of 10 ships of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in the same class
(battle engine syntax: mod,enemy,10,this,all,+,0,-1) |
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kamekaze6 Admiral
Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 1312 Location: Malta
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: |
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This is an idea which came to me the first day I rejoined spacetrace, i was discussing it with O-siris and have been waiting for the ability to invent to do so. What are your thoughts. atm it is 11 mp and does -1lp to 10 enemies, but it could also be 9 mp and does -1 lp to 2 of your own ships as well as 10 enemies. _________________ STFU N00B!!!!111!1!
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spacetrace Board Admin
Joined: 24 Dec 2001 Posts: 1624
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: |
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ok . it is balanced, but i do not think that is it needed |
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kamekaze6 Admiral
Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 1312 Location: Malta
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Well I would use it. Its strong vs class 1 but not as expensive as the specter when you only want to take out 500 class 1. I would personally use it. I think I prefer that it deals 1 damage to 2 of ur own ships but is cheaper. Would be very strong in combo with the hammer or also with wasps. _________________ STFU N00B!!!!111!1!
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Scolar Visari Captain
Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 149
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm.. this is like a mini cyclops.. its not bad and i could see the different uses for it..
i guess more or less debating if we really need it.. we have cyclops and spectre..
i guess i like it because i can think of a few different ways to use it
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DavAlan Admiral
Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 778 Location: Palo Alto, California
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:42 am Post subject: |
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Actually is much less related to cyclops or spectre since this one is not limited to c1 only.
Seems balanced but, may be better a kazu instead of eray so, myc get it as an alternative to triggering evaps with cyclopses....triggering on c2 would be less costly
Also a revival of this may be a better idea but, again is eray (have the spectre already).
This was on black hand in large numbers 2 years ago is more like a mini-spectre but, renders c1 unreconstructable (lp to -1) which would avoid "double triggering" of evaps with 1 lp hits but, kills only 5 c1 for the 14 mp invested as a trade-off.
frigate mk ii (class 2 ship)
this ship is the class 2 fighter-defense ship. to it¸s normal gun it has 5 laser turretts which can target fighter over long distances. this ship is ment as a replacement for the spectre.
attack/life: 10/5
manpower: 14
researchtime: 1 d
buildingtime: 12 h
e-ray-technology
needed research:
improved field theories
battle details:fights
(battle engine syntax: f)
modifies AP/LP by 0/-1 of 5 ships of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in class 1
battlemessage: "frigate shots at ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: mod,enemy,5,1,all,+,0,-1,frigate shots at) _________________ "Destruction leads to a very rough road
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They are just another good vibration
And tidal waves couldn't save the world
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Spyder Vice Admiral
Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 565
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: |
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There are enough class one killers already I think, this ship could make class one redundant, which would be ironic as it was once the premier class. _________________ Space Mercenaries Inc.
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Scolar Visari Captain
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: |
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yes Spyder, there are a lot of class 1 killers but.. i think class1 is used alot.. i see many vets with lots of class one.. erm, -TO-
but... it could get redundant.. so i think maybe we should put a trigger on this or something.. like:
trigger_kill@destroy,enemy,10,class1,all,shockwave destroyer mkii explodes destroying
now.. tell me that wouldnt be interesting
be funny watching a fleet of these fight some evaps _________________
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DavAlan Admiral
Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 778 Location: Palo Alto, California
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Scolar Visari wrote: | yes Spyder, there are a lot of class 1 killers but.. i think class1 is used alot.. i see many vets with lots of class one.. erm, -TO-
but... it could get redundant.. so i think maybe we should put a trigger on this or something.. like:
trigger_kill@destroy,enemy,10,class1,all,shockwave destroyer mkii explodes destroying
now.. tell me that wouldnt be interesting
be funny watching a fleet of these fight some evaps |
LMAO: here is what happens an evap gets triggered into triggering this thing which triggers up to 10 more evaps (killing a c2 for each + possibly triggering more of these ) ...also, mixed c1 (fighters and etc + evaps) and c2 (standard c2 + these) would ensure this happened.
Seems like the evaps would gain really fast...like 10 to 1 (c2 to c1 kills)...
I guess a single trigger_kill@destroy for each (evap and this c2) would simply mean mutual assured destruction for both in any case? _________________ "Destruction leads to a very rough road
But it also breeds creation
And earthquakes are to a girl's guitar
They are just another good vibration
And tidal waves couldn't save the world
From Californication"
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kamekaze6 Admiral
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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TBH I actually invented it to work in combo with hammer against class 2... It would not trigger your own evaps as it attacks enemy ships. It should remain eray as it is a miniature shockwave cruiser. _________________ STFU N00B!!!!111!1!
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