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 Post Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject:
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wow... The Force is a good sized multy...

i attacked one and look whats happening now...

your planet is attacked by harrysanger of nutraneadasdj fleet 1 (ETA 9 h 53 m)
code your planet is attacked by Gurbi of Total Demolition fleet 1 (ETA 11 h)
code your planet is attacked by Bhajan of Bhajan fleet 1 (ETA 16 h)
code your planet is attacked by Gursharan of Gursharan fleet 1 (ETA 20 h)
your planet is attacked by Jaskaran of Jaskaran fleet 1 (ETA 21 h)

lets see here...

harrysanger of nutraneadasdj ---->1h 26min
Gurbi of Total Demolition ---->1h 36min
Bhajan of Bhajan---->1h 30min
Gursharan of Gursharan---->1h 30min
Jaskaran of Jaskaran---->online


hmmm... 3/5 of them have similar names.. harry's planet name is just a bunch of nonsense, which concludes its just a quick account to hurry and send his fleets.. 4/5 accounts are similar log out times, mostly 4-6 mins off, indicating that each account logged in, sent fleets, logged out..

-AND-

the amazing part is that all five found out i attacked the Force member, talked to other alliance members, sent fleets, ALL with in a HALF AN HOUR!!!

i recieved a message from marlyman saying that his "alliance members" were going to attack me... well..

29.12 18:10 From:marlyman of zonkon
Subject:HI
YOU HAV MADE A MISTAKE ATTCKING ME NOW ALL MY FELLOW MEMBERS WILL BE CAMING TO YOU - del

the time now at this very moment is 20:25 on my screen, This was a little over 2 hours ago, and each of my incomming logged off 1h 30mins ago, giving them about 30minutes to log on, find out what was happening, coordinate attacks, and send fleets... hmmm... sounds fishy...


so, i decided to message these guys, saying i know that they are multys and to delete all accounts -EXCEPT- for one, because having more than one account has no tactial advantage... and i get this message back..

29.12 18:32 from King Epror of King Empror World
Subject:Re:Attacks
hello scolar visari you have been mistaken in proving that the force is all one account. this is wrong because we all go to the same School (forest gate) and we are all good friends. we are not in the same claas but we regulary see each other our leade war lord linton introduced us and we all decided to join up. we are not all one account


a few problems with that.... maybe if you were a class, and logged in at school....

-BUT-

what time of the year is it? seriously, NO SCHOOL is open right now.. expecially a london public school... so, now how do you explain the similar log in times? Do you live together? i did my research to find a bunch of holes in this story, and if ADMIN doesnt do something about it then, wow... lame
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 Post Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:17 pm    Post subject:
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been there done that

ask some members to come to your planet and they will retreat
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 Post Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:56 pm    Post subject:
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Wow Scolar...looks like you are really lucking out big time!
You need some help with that smorgasboard that's on it's way to you ?
It should not be too hard to figure out what's in the fleets that are incomming.
How many points you think you will win? Maybe we should have a raffle to see who can guess the total points you will win !
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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:29 am    Post subject:
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I dont know T2, i just got done making 3k today and a good 2k yesterday from a MTWG...

uhh... how many points.. im thinking about 4k...

Heres a chart of how many points i'll make...

-5000 to -1000= 0.5%
-999 to 0= 2%
0 to 1250= 40%
1251 to 3000= 28%
3001 to 5000= 15%
5001 to 8000= 5.5%
and
10% that they'll turn around and go back home with their tails in between their legs...

lets hope for the BEST!!!
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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:17 am    Post subject:
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ok...I'll go with the safe bet - 0 to 1250= 40%
They probablywill turn around.
The Force is learning that more is not better when it comes to scoring points.
I'm not sure if they are completely convinced yet !
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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:20 am    Post subject:
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i'll go for the 1250 to 3000

if they have the same ability's as the emperors and picknose and Jedi master you're one lucky sun of a bi.tch

i we,nt from 13 k to 21 k in one night :p :d

i'm so happy
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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:18 am    Post subject:
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ok.. here are the results of 2 attacks!

30.12 07:33
your base fights against fleet 1 from Gurbi of Total Demolition at ***/***/**
30.12 07:31:11 - the enemy fleet arrived

enemy losses:
class 2:
13 destroyers
1 shield generator
2 holo-clone-ships
1 spectre
class 3:
1 dreadnought

score: 29


30.12 06:03
your fleet 3 fights against fleet 1 from harrysanger of nutraneadasdj at ***/***/**
29.12 22:02:38 - your fleet arrived
30.12 06:00:41 - the enemy fleet arrived

summary:
your losses:
class 2:
10 shield generators
1 spectre
class 3:
5 cruisers

enemy losses:
class 3:
1 dreadnought

score: -365

30.12 06:03
your base fights against fleet 1 from harrysanger of nutraneadasdj at ***/***/**
30.12 06:00:37 - the enemy fleet arrived

summary:
your losses:
class 1:
691 fighters
class 2:
70 destroyers
class 3:
6 cruisers

enemy losses:
class 1:
542 fighters
class 2:
50 pirate ship
class 3:
2 dreadnoughts

score: 431


lame... only 95 points...

but its only with 2 of the 5 incomming and i know what these guys use..

so we can only see what happens next...
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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject:
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I wanted to bet for the 3001-5000 points, but seeing u only wonb 95 points the first two battles, i'd say.... 1251 to 3000, cos my fleets are on their way lol
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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: OMFG!!! LOL!!!
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wow.. ok, so here is the results of the last three attacks.. lol....

30.12 17:13
your base fights against fleet 1 from Jaskaran of Jaskaran at ***/***/**
30.12 17:11:47 - the enemy fleet arrived

summary:
your losses:
class 1:
122 fighters
class 2:
6 destroyers
class 3:
15 nano viruses

enemy losses:
class 1:
8797 nano viruses
75 nano bombers
13 fighters
class 2:
1230 nano viruses
10 troikas
18 troika modules
14 mobile repair bots
class 3:
1 nano virus

score: 223


30.12 17:12
your fleet 3 fights against fleet 1 from Jaskaran of Jaskaran at ***/***/**
30.12 17:11:12 - your fleet arrived
30.12 17:12:00 - the enemy fleet arrived


summary:
your losses:
class 1:
1500 nano viruses
class 2:
150 nano viruses

enemy losses:
class 1:
121 nano viruses
1 nano bomber

score: 2


30.12 17:04
your base fights against fleet 1 from Gursharan of Gursharan at ***/***/**
30.12 17:04:36 - the enemy fleet arrived

summary:
your losses:
class 1:
49 fighters
class 3:
21 cruisers

enemy losses:
class 1:
49 fighters
class 2:
50 c-cannon-modules
class 3:
12 c-cannon-platforms
5 plague ships

score: 700


30.12 15:39
your base fights against fleet 1 from Bhajan of Bhajan at ***/***/**
30.12 13:01:24 - the enemy fleet arrived


summary:
your losses:
-

enemy losses:
-

score: 0

w00t! 1020 points... ahh.. not that great, but i thought i would lose a lot more from the 5 attack.. like my DA and ms's.. but thankfully they used a plague ship and i had nano viruses in my c3... pheww...

but it doesnt end here.. o no, while they were coming at me i hid a fleet 1 sector away full of c2....

so the score count is still not over... lol...

o yeah, and this cracks me up... LOL

30.12 17:13
your base fights against fleet 1 from Jaskaran of Jaskaran at ***/***/**
30.12 17:11:47 - the enemy fleet arrived

yours: 195 ships
class 1:
122 fighters (1/1, 1 MP)
class 2:
57 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
class 3:
15 nano viruses (0/1, 0 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)
buildings:
1 intelligence station (0/1, 0 MP)
1 transwarp-network (0/100, 0 MP)
1 defensive array (0/500, 0 MP)
1 research center (0/3500, 0 MP)
1 shipyard (0/3500, 0 MP)

enemy: 17789 ships
class 1:
25 fighters (1/1, 1 MP)
129 nano bombers (0/1, 2 MP)
16279 nano viruses (0/1, 0 MP)
class 2:
14 mobile repair bots (1/10, 5 MP)
10 troikas (0/10, 16 MP)
1230 nano viruses (0/1, 0 MP)
class 3:
10 c-cannon-platforms (10/50, 30 MP)
9 plague ships (50/200, 120 MP)
82 nano viruses (0/1, 0 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)

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summary:
your losses:
class 1:
122 fighters
class 2:
6 destroyers
class 3:
15 nano viruses

enemy losses:
class 1:
8797 nano viruses
75 nano bombers
13 fighters
class 2:
1230 nano viruses
10 troikas
18 troika modules
14 mobile repair bots
class 3:
1 nano virus

score: 223

omfg... wow.. never in my life will i see that again.. i hope...
wierd thing is.. my dsp didnt show this.. but something different.. it showed 100 70 63 1... i remember cause i setup my fleet to do the best... hmmm...
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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: more...
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30.12 17:51
your fleet 2 fights against fleet 1 from Gursharan of Gursharan at ***/***/**
30.12 17:51:45 - your fleet arrived
30.12 17:04:39 - the enemy fleet arrived

summary:
your losses:
class 3:
4 nano viruses

enemy losses:
class 1:
200 nano viruses
class 2:
20 nano viruses

score: 0


30.12 17:51
your fleet 2 fights against fleet 1 from Jaskaran of Jaskaran at ***/***/**
30.12 17:51:45 - your fleet arrived
30.12 17:11:53 - the enemy fleet arrived

summary:
your losses:
class 3:
2 cruisers

enemy losses:
class 1:
400 nano viruses
class 2:
40 nano viruses
class 3:
1 plague ship
4 nano viruses

score: 0


30.12 17:43
your fleet 1 fights against fleet 1 from Gursharan of Gursharan at ***/***/**
30.12 17:43:02 - your fleet arrived
30.12 17:04:50 - the enemy fleet arrived

summary:
your losses:
class 3:
10 nano viruses

enemy losses:
class 1:
2200 nano viruses
class 2:
220 nano viruses

score: 0


30.12 17:43
your fleet 1 fights against fleet 1 from Jaskaran of Jaskaran at ***/***/**
30.12 17:43:02 - your fleet arrived
30.12 17:11:54 - the enemy fleet arrived

summary:
your losses:
class 2:
1 holo-clone-ship
11 destroyers

enemy losses:
class 1:
7482 nano viruses
54 nano bombers
12 fighters
class 3:
81 nano viruses
6 c-cannon-platforms
5 plague ships

score: 800


30.12 17:43
your fleet 1 fights against fleet 1 from Bhajan of Bhajan at ***/***/**
30.12 17:43:02 - your fleet arrived
30.12 13:01:30 - the enemy fleet arrived

summary:
your losses:
-

enemy losses:
class 1:
3100 nano viruses
class 2:
310 nano viruses
class 3:
31 nano viruses

score: 0

so total of 1820 points total for ME! yay! then i got some alliance member coming, haha... lol... mark one for the good guys..
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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:20 pm    Post subject:
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Quote "The Force is learning that more is not better when it comes to scoring points.
I'm not sure if they are completely convinced yet !"

ROFL...now I know they are not yet convinced !
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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject:
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LMAO! got 1200 points from that!
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 Post Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:00 pm    Post subject:
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Nice man! I went past Newham yesterday, perhaps I should of called in on them!

Anyway, Can I message one of them? I wan't to see how this stuff works.
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King Empror has been gangbanging me, and he brought these mates along:

picknose of pupil planet
Prince Ramiz of Vahoraville


These may be multis, but i dont have any proof for it. But they can be put on the suspect list i guess. Oh yeah, i made 3k points off of them. And i was on vacation, but i hadnt researched cloak gen yet. lol. Oh yeah, if any one is interested in removing them from my base, use the code: basher

My name is Evil Daves Basement of DOOM!

I cant give you coords, but if you message me, il give em. Sadly they did blow up my shipyard. And i have to wait 10 hours till its done.


Oh yeah, just noticed: picknose and Prince Ramiz both have next confrontation in 4 h 36 min. Either a well coordinated attack, or a multi sent them both right after the other (it is possible to be on 2 acounts at once). oh yes. Prince Ramiz is offline for 12 hours. picknose for 13. if they sent their fleets at around 12.59..... and king empror has next confrontation 23 hours. But he is offline 12 hours. i think i can safely say that i have found 2 more multis. or at least more proof that empror is one.

oh yes, i have their coords. message me if you want them. Their planets must not have a lot of ships right now...



oh yeah, i was also attacked by:

king empror kiser of K.E.K


what could K.E.K possibly stand for? *cough* king empror kingdom *cough*


im to bored to count, but what does that bring the number of ''suspected'' multi's to?

oh yeah, when i say suspected, i do the thing dr.evil does when says: laser. You know, the little quote thing with his fingers.
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It's hopeless because no one ever gets banned/deleted. Last EVO I dedicated myself to the multi hunt, and let it run my real life for most of the evo....I would set my alarm for fleet arrival times so I could trigger battles and rebuilds and not lose time...I scored an ASSLOAD of points by hitting nothing but multis...and it made no difference. For every 1 I hit, I would find 2 to 3 more with probing and comparing offline times. I got tired and just a bit fed up, which is why I've been virtually nonexistant this evo. ST needs rules enforcement, otherwise it's nearly pointless to hunt the multis, they just recreate new accounts to replace the bashed ones. I once had 4 (FOUR!) start up fleets headed toward my base, they appeared within minutes of eachother....brand 'NEW' players (from the same school of course) who joined to help a friend take me out.....thank god multi's are stupid, I feasted well.

After spending so much time with the multi hunt, I have the strong impression that it is either one or two people who are creating all the multi accounts. Almost ALL fleet compositions were one of two configurations. I've gone semi inactive after that evo, I'm tired of doing things that make no difference. Just figured I'd add in my own experiences.

Nothing will change till multi-bans become swift and merciless. Burden of proof must be shifted onto the ACCOUNT OWNERS to prove they are not multi accounting. Even account sitting should be a bannable offense, unless it is cleared with admin before hand. That would not solve the multi problem, but it might make it better....Also, all points gained from multis should be reduced by 1/2....that, along with swift bans would make multi accounting unprofitable for those who believe they can't win without cheating.

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My opinion is to put multi accounts on ignore. As obviously the skill level is not there to cause any real harm, just a minor inconvenience at times.

There will always be a certain percentage of new players that want to form instant alliances with many accounts. Trying to stamp them out is unfortunately, a waste of time.

Also, the points gained is not a real score achieved from hard battle against real competition so that also becomes a false statistic in ability.

I know, with so many spawns, doing battle is almost certainly going to happen but to target them only strengthens their resolve.
This probably is good as long as sooner or later they decide to try an evo with just 1 account just to see what happens.

I think KoT and MJ should try to get themselves into the Top 10 by fighting these guys. It might do you guys some real good in your battle strageties.
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 Post Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:08 am    Post subject:
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T2 wrote:
minor inconveniences


they have attacked me in groups, and gave me 3k. but now that my fleet has been destroyed, im helpless, because they keep destroying my shipyard and research center. I cant log on in time, because even if i log on before it is destroyed, it will be destroyed before i can prodouce new ships. in my last evo, there was a multi with 3 acounts, who got banned.

in other news, prince whatshisname and picknose have come up with an excuse: ''we are friends from school'' and i had a qoute from king empror saying: ''we are in an alliance''

and also, there saying that they are attacking me because i accused them of being multi's, while they started attacking before i told them that i though they where multi's. That would mean they have read this forum, yet still. Im not the only one accusing them.

and also. King empror has the username ''pupil'' and one of his ''buddies'' is picknose of pupil planet.

if someone would just come and kill these guys, then i could rebuild, and retaliate. multi's must be dealt with. I reported king empror to the multi hunter team, and now we wait.
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Got some new evidence for KoT's case, this might be coincedence, but anyway...

[13:10] spacebot: King Epror of King Empror World entered spacetrace
[13:12] spacebot: King Epror of King Empror World entered spacetrace
[13:15] spacebot: picknose of pupil planet entered spacetrace
[13:18] spacebot: King Epror of King Empror World entered spacetrace
[13:20] spacebot: King Epror of King Empror World entered spacetrace
[13:23] spacebot: King Epror of King Empror World entered spacetrace

Hope u can do sumthing with it. Also, KoT, i've got a fleet free, so i'll message u ingame.
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Ah, the multi rat-pack technique....it is MORE than a minor inconvenience....and it can be hard to take down 15k of mp (or more) with only 5k....or in KOT's case...no ships....

KOT, send me your coords and recent battle history and I'll help you out. Multi's need to be BANNED. There are now 3 Alliances with (or close to) 20 members....with similar alliance names...and I'm calling FU*CK*ING MULTI!!

I don't want to hear bull*sh*it about being from the same school, or in the same class, or even brother/sister plays sh*it....just ban their as*ses unless THEY can prove they are not multi accounters. A few times like that should solve some of the problem.
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 Post Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:21 pm    Post subject:

Okay, what about this:

The Multi Crushing Bond, every alliance that is not multi, and can prove so, will be let in, and when multi's are detected, they can be called upon, just like u do when you report a multi when u spend 1 credit.

This is better then just one alliance taking on all the multi's, and every member of the alliance can be sure not to be suspected as a multi.

If you are not in the MCB, then u will have a potential with either DUMB, or MULTI on it.

What do u guys think?
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