Number of probes

[limsky]

What is the number of probes required to scan the surrounding space (up to a radius of 30 sectors)of your planet?

[God]

well there are many defferent probs, but the best is long range probe that can do 17 sectors scan, but it is really slow in moving, and i thin you need 2,3 of them to scan 30 sectors (maybe more)

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[Captain Starlight]

i think 6 wsp would just about do it.
But, as you all know, I cant count.

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[Blade Demon]

I think you would need two wsp

[God]

you'l need more than 2 demon, something around 3 or 4 or 5

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[Guest]

Me, too I think you need 1 wide-range scan probe to scan 30 sectors. But 30 sectors radius is something else... It is very difficult to scan without leaving any planets out.
I think you need about 15 wide-range scan probes to scan 30 sectors radius without leaving anything out.

[Lord Philemon]

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[God]

one wide range scans 17 radius, it is possible to calculate how many is needed for 30 sector but it is really hard, and i am to lazy to do it
so u can do it your self

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[limsky]

To scan 30 sectors radius using standard investigating prode without leaving too many planets out, you require 26 probes.

[DaBlackMoB]

better: you have 26 agents telling you all the coords

[Captain Starlight]

I really think one wsp up one down 20 sectors in each vector from your planet will give you as much info on neighbours as you could possibly need

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[limsky]

Have tried with 26 investigating probe. It works. By calculation I will have 15% overlap and 15% space undetected.
My next project is to detect 47 sectors radius using wsp. Do i need another 26 or much more??

[DaBlackMoB]

impressive !

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[God]

youll need same amount
(sectors are same)
please send me the coords you got

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[Lord Philemon]

I don't know which tactic you use but using mine you'd need 64 wide-range scan probes. You'd then scan 512000 (80³) sectors but also wouldn't leave anything out.
I calculated that the "netto-time" you need to build and send all the probes would be: 2757 hours or 115 days or ca. 3.8 months. If you use all three probes for the project it should "only" take a third of the time...
On the other hand you have about the same relation between radius and scanradius, so I'm not sure... To scan a cube of 30³ sectors around my planet (I always calculate and scan in cubes) i would need 125 investigation probes...

[ This Message was edited by: Lord Philemon on 2002-10-09 23:52 ]

[admin]

but the probe doesent scan in cubes, they scan spherical - you would need a pile order like when you stack oranges into a box

[God]

That is some impressive calculation lord

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[admin]

actually one w-r-p scans
4/3 * 17³ * ¶ = 20579.5 sectors (¶=3.14159265)
so for 80³3=512000 sectors you would need at least 24.8 probes but you will have problems to fit the sheres into each other so i guess youll need about 28

the initial question was how many for 30 sectors around the base, so 4/3 * 30³ * ¶ = 113097,3 sectors.
so for 30³ sectors you would need only 5.5 w-r-probes or 54 investigation probes

[Captain Starlight]

I did say six I think. Leave the maths to the Wizz and Phileman I reckon.

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[limsky]

I agree with the first part:
the initial question was how many for 30 sectors around the base, so 4/3 * 30³ * ¶ = 113097,3 sectors.
But disagree with this second part:
so for 30³ sectors you would need only 5.5 w-r-probes or 54 investigation probes
Because each investigation probe had a scanradius of 10 sectors, therefore volume scanned is 4/3*10^3*¶ = 4188.8 sectors.
By direct division i would require 113097.3/4188.8=27 probes which i used.
Because of its spherical nature i had 15% overlaps and 15% unscanned space which is acceptable.
To scan the radius of 30 sectors requires 9 rounds of probing (27/3). Each round need 4 hrs to Produce and 4 hrs to dispatch (total 8 hrs. Therefore total time is 72 hrs.
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