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Knight of Truth
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 Post Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:34 am    Post subject:
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I think of it as cheating. but it wasnt against the rules. There was no rule that said we coulnt. Now if admin made a rule that said i cant, then i wouldnt. And now he has, and now we cant do it anymore. Its cheating now, but it wasnt then.
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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject:
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Hey T2. I thought I should drop by to remind you of something.
T2 wrote:
I give it about a week then you will no longer be making these "look how good I am" posts.
Like I said...enjoy it for now...it's much better than spending your time rebuilding your base just to rebuild it again soon as it's back running because that will probably be your fate fairly soon

One more day left...

Oh and I had forgotten to thank you for the 1067 points of last Saturday.

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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject:
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One more day left...

Oh and I had forgotten to thank you for the 1067 points of last Saturday.

Hey there ! Just got back. I have not even logged in yet to see what's been happening.
I need a few hours to do some much hated, but necessary paperwork before I can start thinking about doing a recruitment campaign.
Enjoy your points . You will find it much more of a challenge when I'm playing.
Anyhow...tata for now.....I'm sure there is a lot of news for me to catch up on as well
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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:58 pm    Post subject:
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KoT..... you should learn to not talk and make yourself a fool..

Shade.. not all the PFIU members sent their fleet, deleted, and made a new account..

i was asked to but i refused cause i didnt like the idea of it..
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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject:
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oh wow...

You mean there's actually hope??
I thought this chapter was way gone already...
haven't seen a PFIU fleet for a while, and we've holted almost all attacks bar a few...

BORING....

@ Noxus.
I know you didn't, i didn't say everyone did it, i said it's disgusting that it was an alliance tactic and that you all were told to do it..

the only ones that i remember for sure did it were :

T2 with The tramp of the Trailer park & Zachariah of The Holy Rollers

Knight of Truth with Talking fairy & nothing_works of Desert_storm

Moses with I AM the ONE of the STREETS & Lil Shadey of Bull Shiate of TZO


You did however delete your account, along with everyone else... which is still equally lame...

How sad would this game be if everyone just deleted everytime they started losing...
I'm not particulary interested in fighting an alliance that needs to cheat and abuse gameplay to gain advantage...
I've never fought such a dishonorable alliance...
Even APEmpire with all their multy accounts was more of an honorable war... atleast they didn't run and hide..

but hey if you insist, then come on out of hiding...
we'll be waiting...

or perhaps just all go join TRA^^ yay!!
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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject:
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I would like to add something to this deleting accounts thing.

In my instance, I was at 98% evo. Approx. 2 days from getting a visit from Dominion. Deletion of an account is not a good stragety unless you are either in the 1st 48 hrs of a new evo or, in my case the last 48 hrs of an evo.
I am not aware of any directive PIFU has regarding the practice of such a tactic. As I said, the loss of development to do this tactic does not weigh in favor of having a solid fleet.
It is not something I do not think would be a sound tactic for anyone to practice. The circumstance that was present when I did the 'fly & die' is not something that presents itself regularly. Also, if would have been below 97% evo, I would not have even considered the tactic. I enjoy the advanced tech at that point in an evo and to throw it away for a potential advantage ...to me is not worth it. I did have to weigh out the advantage vs disadvantage to the manouver and obviously I felt the advantage was worth it.

The return of ships to a deleted account's base is a good idea. Now...these ships actually should be vaporized because many people take advantage of unused or closed accounts.
I guess I could also ask anyone who is about to evo out or delete to build a fleet of doomstars and I'll wait at thier base for thier fleet to return home...easy few thousand points and also a legal cheat.

Remember...in all this talk of curing this problem only highlights the fact that we are working within a game that has a "double edge sword".
So...what is the lesser of the 2 evils ?

I am in no way saying I would practice the result of fleet call back however....some will !


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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:44 pm    Post subject:
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Shade wrote:


You did however delete your account, along with everyone else... which is still equally lame...


i never deleted my account... i simply evo'ed out.. and i have proof i evo'ed out.

As for T2 and Moses... they were almost evo'ed out.. only had like less than 5% to go..

But KoT excuse.. i dont know.. hes just a loser

So Shade dont be mad at PFIU, just hate KoT
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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:08 pm    Post subject:
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Well then ok noxos.. i apoligise to you..

but the simple fact is.. of the 15 members of PFIU from a couple of weeks ago...

Just 2 of them are using the same accounts

Congrats to Shadow and Foggy...

13 accounts deleted or gone inactive.... that is one huge coincidence... no?


can i assume you guys have finally rid yourselves of Mighty & KoT?

You guys really need to do alot to redeem yourselves from this...
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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject:
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i deleted as i cudnt play actively

also, mighty asked me to delete anyway
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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:09 am    Post subject:
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You guys really need to do alot to redeem yourselves from this...


Yea...that's going to happen...right after I start shitt!ng gold bricks !

Anyone here who needs to redeem themselves is the c.unt that hacked into our account.
Strangely...it didn't start happening untill you showed up. Guilty or not...your still a prime suspect in my opinion.
Too bad...call it victim of circumstance, wrong place at the wrong time, call it whatever but to think one of the three prime suspects of an illegal act wants us to redeem ourselves is almost laughable.

Very good thing I edited this post so it is a very watered down version of how I really feel.
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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:06 pm    Post subject:
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Hmmm a stranded fleet with a few interceptors at T2 his base. It shows an incoming:


Wanna bet he will only fight me and not T2 his fleets?


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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject:
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it says arthur ***. I assume thats fake? cause otherwise youre a *** idiot. well anyway, you suck. dont reply.
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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:05 pm    Post subject:
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Ah lol KoT is attacking Rob with words

KOT i've played this game long enough to know that Rob would kick your as.s without being online

you, jort and some others just are the thorn in the eye of the forum

*sorry for this offtopic post, I just had to say my thoughts*
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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject:
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well then i say:

*sorry for this spam, *** u*
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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:03 pm    Post subject: To sum it all up
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[quote="Robert Roy"]To be honest, I am getting tired of this.
[/b]

Probably the statement that best covers this "incident".

I would also like to say that the seems to be a misconception of cheating created by the creation of idiosyncraies such as "legal cheating" , and other such non-sense. Cheating is defined in pc gaming as ANY act using multiple accounts or taking advantage of code deficiences (aka "loopholes") esp. to gain advantages this also include "acomplices" defined as anyone with the knowledge these acts were occurring and fail to take action...alliance leaders take note
There is no "cheating percentage" allowed anyone.

On the subject of hacking:
Assuming the game gets hacked for the purpose of gaining advantage I would like to say that hacking in not an accurate method. It can corrupt code and data in other segments. As far as security goes perhaps an attempt to do so is make to corrupt the one attempting it. A common game secutity method

I do think the scandals will continue though.... checking back on old forum post very clearly show it is not new

@KOT-your recent posts have been most revealing and you show a hidden desire to clean up you act with your confessioins so, I would get on it asap
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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:04 pm    Post subject:
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Knight of Truth wrote:
well then i say:

*sorry for this spam, *** u*


boy, grow up

besides....

is PFIU still undergoing transformation?
i hope so

good luck fellas
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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject:
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Rob Roy says :Wanna bet he will only fight me and not T2 his fleets?


I'll take you on that bet Rob...... Guak 69 and I are old friends. Lord knows last round I got to visit him numerous times when Dave or Renee was not busy at his base.

If you somehow think that Guak 69 is coming for a social visit to wipe you out...well...could happen. Fortunately, I'll get the chance to clean up your fleet first. I somehow doubt that Guak and I share the same attack code .
You should really know this Rob.
To insinuate that Guak and I are on a first name basis ...Guak, who had more accounts and was a big farmer last evo could be construed as an insult however...I'll consider the uninformed source of that statement. Rob... I'm sure all of NZ got a big laugh from your post. They would know the truth.
Just to make it fun...perhaps he is coming to help you out Rob...after all multi's do stick together don't they?




Oh...I just had to reveal to the public who was coming to "help me".
If NZ werer not laughing...they are now !

Also...Dave or Renee could confirm this but if Guak69 has renounced his former ways...I'll profusly appologise to him for my accusations. I only know of his actions last round.
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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:53 pm    Post subject:
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WOW! There is an alliance then that stands up to the mighty TO, i have read through the forums on there "OWNING" of alliances, im very impressed with how they have done this, i think they struggled with one a little though or maybe 2 or even 3 lol but they still pravailed and are the only ones still left standing.

i read upon the following:

HSA vs TO
APEmpire vs TO
PENTICIAN Alliance vs TO

but according to the facts they all lost to them. Please tell me if i am wrong on this matter although i dont think i am.
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I think you are correct Jaffa. -TO- is almost all composed of the best players in ST all be it there is 1 in training. A rare phenoma in the -TO- history.
PIFU is also a rare phenoma in ST. After the war ends, we will probably still be in the low scores however we will still be together. A little wiser, and stronger as well. Our biggest problem was admitting players at the last minute that were not quite strong enough yet to compete with -TO- . We are correcting that. It is a necessity to stop the point drain however the feeding has somewhat subsided.

Rob now can score off of me when I go inactive for a few days but he still has a little trouble when I'm just off line. He would be the -TO- guy in training.
Right Rob ...don't worry...I know Shade will coach you . Hopefully between the 2 of you , you can figure out a way to defeat me however I do not expect to see Shade until Rob can win against me first.

Remember what I also told you Rob...after I kick your but.t a few more times, I want you to tell us how you were able to make the top 10 scores last evo.
Remember, I never made it any closer than #15.
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 Post Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:46 am    Post subject:

Something else i would like to say regarding KoT's posts.
I have asked him numerous times about posting alliance business in the Forums.
Everyone can see how well this advice is followed.
We cannot take any responsibility to posts made by KoT
Let it not be said that PIFU does not have patience
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