TFP vs Defiance II

[Araith]

Here goes:

Le Creme (I don't know his forum name, so I'll use him ingame name) attacked an alliance member of mine. That members was at that time very irregularly online to say the best and he was getting beaten.
An alliance member in trouble, unable to defend himself and I have a suitable fleet in reach so I go out to help him and mush Le Creme's fleet almost completely.

As I can understand Le Creme isn't too happy with it. He wants his score back (I won good) and says he'll attack me. In the meanwhile I was also busy saving my ass from kame attacking me. Having destroyed his fleets Le Creme is closing in.
He destroys part of my base but I strike back and mush him again. He only had some 1200 interceptors lying stranded.

As fast as he could he built a new fleet and sent it to me again. In the meanwhile the player I had aided in the beginning had come online again and sent a fleet to round up those interceptors, with success and got some of the score Le Creme took off him back.
I warn Le Creme that his new fleet would get mushed by me just like the other ones and he turns his fleet back.
If he hadn't he'd have blasted the other player but I in turn would have hamstrung his fleet leaving some 600 eagles stranded on my base to kill at ease later.
If the other player hadn't cleared the interceptors I'd have put fed them some fighters and hamstrung his new fleet. In the meanwhile my shipyard would be ready again and I'd kill his ships at ease.

Now comes the final part.
Le Creme is now really annoyed and declares an alliance war under the pretence of being attacked by 2 players of the same alliance.
First of all, he hasn't been attacked a single time. No move has been made towards his base. All battles have been fought at our bases on his initiative.
Secondly, he claims he only wanted 1 on 1 fights. Well, if an only half-active alliance member is getting mushed I'm not the sort of person to stand by and let it be. And his duel with me ... well, he wanted his score back and would attack me anyway. I defended, beat him and would have beaten him again. But I did not ask for a 1 on 1 duel.
Thirdly, an alliance war ... Defiance II, 6 people, 1 inactive and no real top players against whom? TFP, alliance no.1.

I can only draw 3 conclusions out of this scam.
- Le Creme seems to think he rules. Apart from him bashing a defenceless ally I don't know the history of their conflict. What I do know is that what was an attempt to get back his score suddenly became a duel because he said so.
- Le Creme cannot take getting beaten time and time again by a player with only a fraction of his score, so he calls in his alliance.
- Le Creme simply wants to bang someone whatever way and doesn't have the guts to admit it.
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[lilkrnboi1018]

let me add in, the alliance member le creme attacked AND araith were being attacked by OTHER people as well, do it CLEARLY shows that araith had no time to even put into attacking back really. and he even warned him not to attack again telling him he would lose points. does this really sound like a good rep for a player in the no. 1 alliance? and also, we don't have 1 inactive member, we have 2, and we have no1 in the top list, so i wonder wat would happen in a war?
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PWNAGE!

Gotta love the Magnum (RE 0-3)
Or the Eagle (RE 3)
Leader of DEFIANCE
The grounds are soaked... with your blood!

[T2]

I will be extremely surprised if an alliance war breaks out !

I think only the Leader can call a war but rules may be different in TFP ?

[The Butcher]

Why the long dissertation, Araith?

1. You are trying to gain public sympathy, and possibly allies.
2. You are trying to justify the declaration of war.
3. You dont want war at all, and hope public pressure sways TFP into peace.
4. You are trying to "expose" TFP as cowards and bashers.
5. You are posting first so that if TFP publicly calls you "cowards and bashers", you can say that you said it first and they are only copying you.

I call it "business as usual", and wish all parties the best of luck.

In fact, I think Spacetrace could use a good old-fashioned all-out alliance war, with four or five of the top alliances involved, with plenty of namecalling, base bashing, and loose women.

Well, it could use the last part for sure.

[Noxus]

[lilkrnboi1018]

well just to say, an all out war with DEFIANCEII and TFP... hm that seems really fair i'd say

seing we are in like 16th place with barely positive score while they are in 1st

we don't want allies. we don't want war. we just want some of TFP's members to not be pains in the u know wats
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PWNAGE!

Gotta love the Magnum (RE 0-3)
Or the Eagle (RE 3)
Leader of DEFIANCE
The grounds are soaked... with your blood!

[Araith]

[Anon De Mouse]

[T2]

I say " Bring on the Loose women"....yea...yea... Better go over to the Trailer Park to see If a spare bottle of rum can be had from Streets
Sounds more like a party............Yahoo..

[The Butcher]

I will war with anyone, any day.

I do not speak for my alliance, just myself. If you are ready to get tough, Anon, why don't you bring your whole alliance to my base and I will show you who can "walk the walk".

[Failtrip1]

Anon i wouldnt go there if i were you

[Connor McCloud]

This is the point Araith you go and help your alliancemember when He got attacked by Le Creme .
Le Creme said 1 on 1 you played 2 vs 1 , .
Le Creme said again 1 on 1 otherwise there will be a war , you first said bring it on Loser , afterwards you checked Le Cremes alliance and found out he is in TFP . and now you say this isn't fair ? ? ?
Bad Luck on this 1 so you wanted it and you will get it .

It has nothing to do with #1 alliance against a non top 10 alliance .
you better had looked wich alliance he was in before saying bring it on , you have to blame this one on yourself
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[mjx1]

this should be a good war fairly descent players on both sides good luck too everyone and have fun
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[Knight of Truth]

I was the one Le Creme attacked, i was inactive due to my internet not working. I hate Le Creme, but i have nothing on TFP. Loose women beer, guns, etc. do attract me, so if I get the command, bring it!

P.S: if anyone gets angered and wants to bash me, tough luck. Evo is at 100 i have a new planet now.
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[Araith]

[Connor McCloud]

[lilkrnboi1018]

ok, let me get araiths point. he was DEFENDING an inactive member. not saying le creme CANT attack inactive planets, it is saying that we CAN defend them. we never wanted a war (wait aren't we talkin TFP no TFD?) or at least i don't want one, and fair war? we have 2 noobs, 2 decent players, and 1 vet/semi vet, but i'd say vet, some say semi vet

against the number 1 alliance with more decent players AND vets AND more members that are active. sounds pretty fair to me (sarcasm if u can't tell)

edit: also, y are u alll flaming on araith? it seems u all have been misinformed on something, cause we never provoked le creme by attacking him in the first place, and we never attacked him. we didn't even know his coords until now

edit edit: connor, u really expect an ally NOT to help an ally out? he wasn't doing a 2v1. it was a 1v1 anyways. KoT was inactive for gosh sakes! and also, a 2v1? even if KoT counted, how was it a 2v1 wen they never attacked le creme? araith DEFENDED. le creme CANT be stupid enough NOT to expect allies helping KoT. u'd have to be a moron or extremely sure of yourself no1 would defend an alliance member who ASKS for help
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PWNAGE!

Gotta love the Magnum (RE 0-3)
Or the Eagle (RE 3)
Leader of DEFIANCE
The grounds are soaked... with your blood!

[Connor McCloud]

Nope but that is what happening now 2 vs 1 he couldn't win so he calls his alliance members to help aswell .

But enough talking lets walk the walk (Nice line Anon)


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Greetz Connor

[Vrictus]

oooooooo

look at all the pretty propaganda

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how boring

get on with it

[lilkrnboi1018]

so i'm guessin we're goin with a war? shows how brave and fair TFP is... o well bring it on
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PWNAGE!

Gotta love the Magnum (RE 0-3)
Or the Eagle (RE 3)
Leader of DEFIANCE
The grounds are soaked... with your blood!