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DeluX
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 Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject: TFP score |
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They had 10300 points few minutes ago and now they have 47300 !!!
I dont't think it's possible in such a short time.
"Points for alliances are only counted when players score while they are in that alliance." - so those points can't be from someone who may joined them.
Can anyone explain this nonsense?
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Osiris
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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they claied NZ's flag so it's possible
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Knight of Truth
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It seems unlikely to me, even with a flag capture, but it is possible, I dont know how long the flag has been captured so i dont know the percentage that they will take, but it seems unlikely to me.
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Robert Roy
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Well nearly 14% of our over 250 k score is about 40 k. So all think a bit before posting unnessesarily in the forum 
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DeluX
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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But this is new ERA ! Top alliances have only little bit over 10k points.
250k was before this era..
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Robert Roy
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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The combined points of our members still was over 250k when the flag was claimed.
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DeluX
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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That doesn't matter! Individual points of "before ERA" shouldn't be counted to current alliance scores.
I still believe that's a bug..
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Rubens
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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First of all its not a bug because it has an explanation that was already given to you. So plz stop saying its a bug.
Then as you said this is an ERA but this is the FIRST era and our flag was stolen before the round started. So the points taken shouldnt be the ones that we have now, they should be the score we had before.
So as we didnt create a new account we keep our scores and TFP get this mass points.
After the rounds goes over and over this score would be lost so there wont be any problem.
The only suggestion i can do is that when a round ends all the alliance that are holding a flag, claims it, so we dont keep the scores till the next era. |
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Connor McCloud
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Read before you post ! ! !
Here are the rules : http://www.spacetrace.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2918&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=flag+rules
under #9 you see : you claim from each members score so the total score can be higher than the percentage of the alliance score
And that is what happend , We claimed at 13.91 % , the total score of all members was 248885 that makes the claim score 34620 points .
We had 12680 points + 34620 points = 47300 points 
Greetz Connor 
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spacetrace
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| this is no bug , it is all correct. We decided that the alliance-flag-clain-score should be 20% of the target alliance player scores. Else flag stealing wouldt be to unattractive in the beginning of the round. |
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DeluX
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, very well, I'm sorry then.
I've just thought that previous era statisctics would not make any influence on current scores.  |
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Connor McCloud
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@ Rubens , Players EVO don't stop at end of ERA so all players should lose there score also if flag should be claimed at end of an ERA, and that is not what we want .
So best is that EVO and ERA start at same time , but than no players could join during an ERA . 
Greetz Connor
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spacetrace
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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anyway this discussion is very useful. it would be a small effort to program it in another way. There are some possibilities the flag thing could be made:
- at the end of an era all flags are forced to be claimed, only points made in one round can be claimed (20% of the displayed alliance score) . this way caliming in the beginning would be useless. flag claiming would occur in the end of the round... could be fun
- a mix of alliance score and actual players score can be claimed . for example 10% alliance score, 10 % players score
- just like now. the advantage of this is that it is always fun to steal a flag , and we all know how difficult it is to steal one.
maybe there are more possibilities... |
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Rubens
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| spacetrace wrote: | anyway this discussion is very useful. it would be a small effort to program it in another way. There are some possibilities the flag thing could be made:
- at the end of an era all flags are forced to be claimed, only points made in one round can be claimed (20% of the displayed alliance score) . this way caliming in the beginning would be useless. flag claiming would occur in the end of the round... could be fun
- a mix of alliance score and actual players score can be claimed . for example 10% alliance score, 10 % players score
- just like now. the advantage of this is that it is always fun to steal a flag , and we all know how difficult it is to steal one.
maybe there are more possibilities... |
@Connor oh yeah i didnt think about it, but i will take your last line as a suggestion. Yes it is very bad that players cant join during the ERA but we can change this to a ROUND. What do i mean here? Well that scores and everything are reseted at the end of a ERA so the final score cant be took on account at the next ERA and capturing the flag would be really good at the end of an ERA cuz it would bring more competition and the posibilitie to change top alliances in the last day.
@Spacetrace, well the suggestion is above...but as other users of the forum (including me) have discused before the score claiming by the flag need a new concept and maybe a change. The problem is to be agree on that just the alliance score should be taken and not individual score of the players, but then you get the paradigma of from where are you getting the score. I think is fine like it is now. |
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