CONEJO's Journey on SpaceTrace

[Conejo]

I was advised to start a thread here for little wierd tidbits I would need in my first days here, so this is my thread.

My first question I suppose, is what units are good for defensive purposes? If I were to want to build a FULL fleet for JUST defense, what would it be made up of? I am only wondering just in case someone would be throwing everything they have at me and I had enough time to get a good defensive fleet going.

I understand how the randomness goes, as well as how the ship classes and all that work, but I am just wondering what a defensive fleet would look like: would it have a ton of fighters? destroyers? is there a class or ship I should focus on that works good in this regard?

Thanks a lot, and I hope this thread becomes useful for both me and other newbies that are around the forums in search of answers.
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[Rubens]

Luckly i saw you had a battle yesterday.
If you want you should put the score etc.
Here you dont have defensve ships or attack ships. This is different to anygame
If somebody attacks you with all his mp he may destroy your buildings. To defense your self just put the ships at your base.

It always depend on the ships of the enemy so you dont know wich ship is best.

[Conejo]

[T2]

Try this.......in basic ships...it takes 10 c1 ships to kill 1 c2 ship. It take 10 c2 ships to kill 1 c3 ship. C4 ships are required to travel in space along with your c1, c2, c3, ships generally speaking, Special ships are exempt.

what is more important is HOW the ships fight. Not "how" as in wether it uses a shock ray or a stun pulse but in the battle order itself.
Always the order starts in the c1 and progresses to the c4 as last battle in a meeting.

IF THERE IS NO SHIPS IN THE CLASS YOU WANT TO FIGHT, THE BATTLE AUTOMATICALLY ADVANCES TO THE NEXT CLASS.

so.... if you attack a fleet of 20 c3's only with a "balanced" fleet...say 1000 c1's 100 c2's 10 c3's and 1 mothership, all your ships will try to fight the adversary fleet of c3's but if adversary also had 1 c1 and 1 c2 ship, your 1000 c1 ships would fight enemy c1 only, your c2 would fight enemy c2 only and your c3 would fight against enemy c3 only.

Go for a spin around, always keep 1 ship of each type in your base to protect it ( using rules of engagement above mentioned) and dividing your ships into 2 fleets rather than keeping them in 1 fleet is more effective in defence and attack...once again due to the battle rules and batttle pause that happens after a ship has fought.

This is a small example and look through the manual again in the battle section for a better explaination

[T2]

what actually determines how many c1's it takes to kill a c2 or a c3 ship depends on the Attack Point/ Life point of the ships involved.
For instance if I had a c1 ship that had ap/lp 2/1 against a c3 ship that has ap/lp of 100/100, it would take 50 c1 ships to kill the 1 c3 ship and if the c1 ship ap/lp was 1/1 , it would take 100 fighters.
Some ships have special abilities but the special abilities comes with penalities. The basic ships are the best ships untill you get the hang of battle

[Spyder]

Try two balanced fleets, that can deter most attackers, make them strong in one class, and one of them should score, a single fleet can always be attacked by an experienced player.
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[Rubens]

[Conejo]

[Rubens]

Facilities= building right?
When you lose your shipyard you cant make new ships. Yo have to rebuild the shipyard and it takes 24h. If you research center is destroyed you cant research new thing.
There is nothing good to do, just rebuild it.

The defensive array once it is destroyed you can not rebuild it.
Remember a TWG is just usefull when you are in an alliance of 2 o rmore members. After you rebuild the shipyard you can rebuild the TWG

If a base is empty as more AP(attack power) you have it would be more easy to destroy the base.

Remember

3000 fighters= 3000 ap by 3000 mp
30 cruseros = 3000 ap by 1800 mp.

Well now is time to sleep. Hope astrolayer dosnt hit hard my base while i am sleeped

[Conejo]

Let me get this straight: So the more attack power you have the better your chance at destroying the base? So to use up less MP it would be better to use cruisers to attack a base?


One minor thing: is there any way to alter the alliance password once you have made it and the alliance has been formed? now that my alliance is formed and everything I want to know if I can change the password just in case someone proves unloyal. Thanks
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[Failtrip1]

you can always alter your alliance pass in your HQ screen.it is advisable to do so in order to protect your self from spies.

[Rubens]

[Conejo]

[Rubens]

lol
Well AstroSlayer took -359 of some ships at my home. then i got 1k pts destroying the fleet

The point is defending your buildings and thats all. As you dont know with what somebody will attack you you can defend the base with the entire fleet

Now, do you know how to use the probes? DO you see the player that attacked you at your comlist?

Even if you know it: the best way to know what the enemy has is using Deep Scan Probes.(see description) Then you see if his fleet is at his base and you know what he has builded.

Keep us informed and good to know you are enjoying the game

[Spyder]

[DavAlan]

Suppose you got 3 fleets and you take a simultaneous eta on you with with 3 fleets. Should a total of 9 battles (each one battling the 3 others) occur or just 3 (one battles one other and merely sets attack timers on the other two)? From experience the latter seems to be true, although I have only a few 2 fleet simultaneous eta's as examples.

When I 1st started playing I took advantage of a loophole without really being aware I was doing so. I retal'ed on a base using 3 fleets against 4 (inc. the base fleet) won the 1st battles (each fleet battling one other fleet and one of them also battling the base). I then withdrew and turned back. 4 more battles occured (each fleet battling one it did not before and a fleet that did not battle the base before doing so) and then again for even 4 more Needless to say I pounded every ship and structure flat.
Normally I would not hit so much but, this one had bashed me just 2 hours after coming out of np 2 days earlier.

Also, not sure if this would work anymore, the other fleets seem to set conflict timers on the fleets they do not battle on the 1st eta in this scenario.
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Also since I have an player eta'ed on me while in newbie protection I need to know if a conflict timer was set on his eta or if it is set on his exit of np? Or if a conflict timer was even set at all :S Seems like this could become a problem if he can battle me at will simply by exiting np. And if a conflict timer was set on the eta which occured in the early am my time, then I got to be up for the next two days, depart (not wanting to do that), or just battle a fleet I cant read on dsp beforehand (not a real problem, just an annoyance and not the way I like to do this).
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[DavAlan]

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