evaporator vs defensive

[Rubens]

Well think this is a bug.
A evaporator attacks ships at least.

And i think we comprobe that the evaporator dosnt destroy a Defensive array

Anybody with explanations?

your class 1 vs enemy class 4: V ^
you:
7 evaporator
enemy:
2 motherships
1 shipyard
1 research center
1 major reconstructor
1 transwarp-network
1 defensive array

5 evaporator vs 1 shipyard

1 defensive array defends in class 3: 1 ship
1 defensive array defends in class 2: 10 ships
1 defensive array defends in class 1: 7 ships

losses:
you :
10 destroyers
1 cruiser
7 evaporator
enemy :
-
score in this subbattle: -224

[T2]

Here's my best guess Rubans...

Your evaps were triggered by the def array and responded by shooting at the base. I hit shipyard via random selection instead of def array, motherships or research stn
Evaps have no effect on shipyard ???


That's my best guess... I'm sure some buildings are immune to evaps but didn't look at the syntax to confirm


Hell I don't know..... I accept everything that happens and try to figure it out so It don't happen again

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Here is the syntax...looks like the evaps have no effect on shipyard

battle details:

1. fights
(battle engine syntax: f)
2. if this ships LP or AP are increased or decreased it modifies LP by -5000 of 1 ship of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in the same class but some ships and buildings are immune against this effect
battlemessage: "evaporator destroys ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: trigger_plus@kill,enemy,1,this,all,evaporator destroys)
3. trigger_destroy it modifies LP by -5000 of 1 ship of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in the same class but some ships and buildings are immune against this effect
battlemessage: "evaporator destroys ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: trigger_destroy@kill,enemy,1,this,all,evaporator destroys)

[Spyder]

It is not a bug, evaps can kill arrays ms and transwarps, all depends on luck, if they fire at the shipyard first, nothing happens.
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[kamekaze6]

shipyard and research center ar immune to every type of modification.

[Rubens]

[T2]

Thanks Rubans. Your right about the evaps not being triggered with the Def Array. Def Array would kill them outright I think.

The part I don't get is then....what triggered the Evap to fire at the base ?
I understand that they line up and keep firing at whatever triggered the ap change until it's destroyed and luck has it that it turned out to be a shipyard but what triggered them to fire to start?

I also didn't know about the reconstructor being immune. I never have good luck with Evaps and need to know more on how they work but I do know working well, they are "hell with wings" and not used properly they cost lots of points

[Rubens]

[kamekaze6]

look it s really simple:

DA triggered evaps

1 evap targetted base but didn't destroy it.

other evaps kept on hitting the base as ships will not stop attacking the same ship/building until it dies.

shipyard was never destroyed.

You killed nothing.

The End

[Rubens]

[T2]

[kamekaze6]

i explained it. triggered means caused to activate. the DA modified them and they activated so they triggered. I explained it fully don t argue with me I'm right

It doesn t say basic ships attack the ame ship until its dead either so why should it say anything with evaps?!

[Rubens]

Ok, as the admin dosnt answe i will have to believe you. Thanks

Because the evaps have at their syntax the "f" it means they fight. And they fight vs a Shipyard till it is destroyed. But the basic ships havent the extra function of the evap. So i think the effect goes just to 1 ship, it dosnt matter if it destroyed. Well it has always happen like that.

Well what i still dont understand is, why if the evaporator was trigered it wasnt said by the BR!!!!! It could be the RC or it could attack first a ship or the DA or TWG(5/7 of posibilities!)

[admin]

i think the answer is much simpler:

[Robert Roy]

if it would only fight versus class 1, it would be useless.

iif the evap gets modified, it kills 1 ship in the same class it was fighting.

so if it was fighting versus class 1 and it gets killed by a fighter, it will target a class 1 ship.
same for class 2.

if you are fighting class 3, and you get modified by a cruiser, you will kill 1 class 3 ship. if all let's say 40 evaps are modified by a cyclops, there will be 40 class 3 ships killed.
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[Metody I The Evil]

It acts more like a mine.

If the def-array modifies it, while the enemy has ships in c2,c3 etc. it goes straight for the def-array unless of course shipyard/RC etc. get in the way. Got mine taken out last evo with an evap, and returned the favour with an evap as well... Though both were unintentional (offline battles etc.)

The only way to describe it's effect in simple terms, is to say that it acts NOT just in the class IT's fighting; It acts in the class WHERE the fight is

I'm more interested in what happens if it gets modified by a ship of it's own fleet - say, an intruder, or a kamikaze even. Though I've never tried it - if it indeed acts then as well - and it should, according to the battle-syntax description - intruder/evap or kamikaze/evap would be the ultimate c3 killer (provided you take out c1 c2 of course previously) as even ordinary cruisers won't escape.
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[Spyder]

I have had fun modifying evaps with sporators, it works, they destroy x amount of enemy ships.
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[T2]

I've had it told to me that a evaporator fleet mixed in with intruders makes a great c3 killer fleet. Soon as the intruders modify the evap...they start to let fire at any and all c3's of the enemy's of course destroying them. Certainly a wonderful swank eater if used in the right porportions I would guess.

[Metody I The Evil]

Indeed... provided that,of course, the enemy has no c1 and c2 - the evap acts in the class battle where it gets modified, so if c3 is the target, a c1 vs c3 combat is necessary
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[Rubens]