battle report

[Lord Philemon]

your class 2 vs enemy class 4:


181 firepower increased
159 wasps vs 1 shipyard
23 wasps vs 1 defensive array
14 destroyers vs 1 shipyard
7 destroyers vs 1 defensive array






1 defensive array defends in class 2: 10 ships




Losses:
You :
3 destroyers
7 wasps
Enemy :
1 defensive array
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If I calculated right, the ap should have been enough to destroy the shipyard...so why isn't it destroyed? And why did some wasps and destroyers fight against the array when the shipyard was still standing?

[Captain Starlight]

Hmm, I had trouble figuring out this br, one calculation I did showed not enough firepower if If you read the fire power increased message as a total of all. But its rather tricky. The wasps start out with only one ap,
It may have something to do with battle order too. As to the array and shipyard, maybe the array was shot first?. I also dont think the ap increase is cumalative but am not really sure about that.

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[Lord Philemon]

Well ok I come up to 3274 attack points against the shipyard... that's not really enough. But it would have been enough when the ships wouldn't have fought against the defence array.

[Lord Philemon]

your class 1 vs enemy class 4:








1 defensive array defends in class 3: 1 ship
1 defensive array defends in class 2: 1 ship
1 defensive array defends in class 1: 50 ships




Losses:
You :
50 interceptors
Enemy :
-

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your class 2 vs enemy class 4:












Losses:
You :
1 destroyer
Enemy :
-

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your class 3 vs enemy class 4:












Losses:
You :
1 cruiser
Enemy :
-

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your class 4 vs enemy class 4:








1 defensive array defends in class 1: 50 ships




Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
-

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Summary:
your losses:
class 2:
1 destroyer
class 3:
1 cruiser
class 1:
100 interceptors

enemy losses:
-



I always thought the defence array gets one turn in each class and not two...look at class 4 fight.

[Lord Philemon]

So it seems the array gets one shoot against each class in every class... Just lost points because of that

[admin]

it seems like it only had one in the br like you posted it here? maybe you can edit your post and post the COMPLETE Battlereport?

[Lord Philemon]

This is the whole battle-report - I just left out the ships before. And the array gets its turn one time in class 1 fight and another time in class 4 fight (btw: I didn't mean the one at the very top but the one after that).

Here is another br where what I maybe misunderstood gets more clearly:

yours: 1739 ships
class 1:
1582 fighters (1/1)
class 2:
148 wasps (1/10)
class 3:
8 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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enemy: 0 ships
class 4:
buildings:
1 defensive array (0/500)
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)

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your class 1 vs enemy class 4:


1535 fighters vs 1 research center






1 defensive array defends in class 3: 1 ship
1 defensive array defends in class 2: 10 ships
1 defensive array defends in class 1: 50 ships




Losses:
You :
50 fighters
Enemy :
-

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your class 2 vs enemy class 4:


130 firepower increased
99 wasps vs 1 research center
32 wasps vs 1 shipyard






1 defensive array defends in class 3: 1 ship
1 defensive array defends in class 2: 10 ships
1 defensive array defends in class 1: 50 ships




Losses:
You :
20 wasps
Enemy :
1 research center

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your class 3 vs enemy class 4:


6 cruisers vs 1 shipyard






1 defensive array defends in class 3: 1 ship
1 defensive array defends in class 2: 10 ships
1 defensive array defends in class 1: 50 ships




Losses:
You :
3 cruisers
Enemy :
1 research center

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your class 4 vs enemy class 4:








1 defensive array defends in class 3: 1 ship
1 defensive array defends in class 2: 10 ships
1 defensive array defends in class 1: 50 ships




Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
1 research center

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Summary:
your losses:
class 1:
200 fighters
class 3:
4 cruisers
class 2:
40 wasps

enemy losses:
class 4:
buildings:
1 research center

score: -380



I thought the array would fight one time against each class but I didn't notice it shoots at all classes at once...

[ This Message was edited by: Lord Philemon on 2002-09-20 17:40 ]

[admin]

i see: in the first battlereport the defensive array only shot in class 1 and 4 because in class 2 and 3 the class-battle ended before it started its action cause the only destroyer and cruiser were destroyed before

[ururu]

why shoundn't there be ships, that start their action in ANY case?

[Lord Philemon]

Maybe you can invent one.
But I think the array shouldn't shoot in any case because then it's more or less impossible to make points against a base...

@admin: my actual problem was, that it shot both in class 1 and in class 4 and not just in class 1 (I thought it would shoot at every class one time)... But it's clear to me now how it works.

[ This Message was edited by: Lord Philemon on 2002-09-21 13:34 ]

[SirTaz]

yours: 37 ships
class 2:
1 wasp (1/10)
class 3:
35 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

enemy: 0 ships
class 4:
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)

your class 2 vs enemy class 4:


1 wasp vs 1 shipyard


Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
your class 3 vs enemy class 4:


35 cruisers vs 1 shipyard


Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
1 shipyard


your class 4 vs enemy class 4:
Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
1 shipyard

Summary:
your losses:
-

enemy losses:
class 4:
buildings:
1 shipyardwasp

(class 2 ship)
This commando ship modifies 4 "ships" to gain more firepower (+5)
My ? is ,In this battle report why didn't the warp modifie the cruisers or does it only modifie class two ships? For the way I read it. would modifie any 4 ships.

[Lord Philemon]

Well I always thought it would modify other classes, too but when I look at the syntax it says the wasp only modifies class 2 ships. Actually that's no big problem because you can't modify too many class 3 sips anyway.

[SirTaz]

Hummm I see never looked at it that way on the class 3's and where did fined that imfor on the wasp, that it only modifies class 2's
I only saw it say in the manual that it modifies 4 ships by a +5 in more fire power but i guess it could be like the class 1 commando fighter ,but in the case of the wasp, it doesn't blow its self up after it takes its turn. :smile:

[ This Message was edited by: SirTaz on 2002-09-22 09:12 ]

[Lord Philemon]

If you look at the detailed description of the ships in the manual you'll see a link called "view battle details". If you look at it you see what exactly the ship does.

[SirTaz]

battle details:
fights
(battle engine syntax: f)
modifies AP/LP by +5/0 of 4 ships of "any ship-type" in your own fleet in class 2
battlemessage: "firepower increased"
(battle engine syntax: mod,self,4,2,all,+,5,0,firepower increased,n)

ok I read it:Any ship type in your fleet mean only class 2's so its like the commando ship that modifies class 1's so this ship modifies class 2 ships Thanks I forgot to look at the battle details of the ship.

[Lethal]

yours: 3 ships
class 1:
1 fighter (1/1)
class 2:
1 destroyer (10/10)
class 3:
1 cruiser (100/100)
class 4:
buildings:
1 transwarp-network (0/100)
1 defensive array (0/500)
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)

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enemy: 1302 ships
class 1:
1302 fighters (1/1)

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your class 1 vs enemy class 1:








1 fighter vs 1 fighter




Losses:
You :
1 fighter
Enemy :
-

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Summary:
your losses:
class 1:
1 fighter

enemy losses:
-

score: -1


why my defencive array did not work?!?!?

[Lord Philemon]

Your array gets one turn in each class fight. In this case class 1 fight was finished before the array got its turn and as there were no other class fights it couldn't get another turn...

[Guest]

yours: 14 ships
class 1:
1 fighter (1/1)
class 2:
1 spectre (0/20)
class 3:
11 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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enemy: 1428 ships
class 1:
995 fighters (1/1)
411 mosquitoes (0/3)
class 2:
10 c-cannon-modules (0/4)
class 3:
5 cruisers (100/100)
5 c-cannon-platforms (10/50)
1 cluster-cruiser (0/60)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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your class 1 vs enemy class 1:


1 fighter vs 1 fighter

1 fighter vs 1 fighter

Losses:
You :
1 fighter
Enemy :
1 fighter

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your class 2 vs enemy class 2:


1 heavy shock wave detected: destructed 994 ships


10 c-cannon-modules are mounted on 10 ships

Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
-

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your class 3 vs enemy class 3:


5 cruisers vs 5 cruisers
4 cruisers vs 4 c-cannon-platforms
2 cruisers vs 2 battle-drones

9 battle-drones vs 1 cruiser
1 cluster-cruiser deployes 10 ships
5 cruisers vs 5 cruisers
5 c-cannon-platforms vs 5 cruisers

Losses:
You :
8 cruisers
Enemy :
5 cruisers
1 cluster-cruiser
2 battle-drones
4 c-cannon-platforms

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your class 4 vs enemy class 4:

Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
-

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Summary:
your losses:
class 1:
1 fighter
class 3:
8 cruisers

enemy losses:
class 1:
995 fighters
class 3:
5 cruisers
1 cluster-cruiser
2 battle-drones
4 c-cannon-platforms
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yours: 5 ships
class 2:
1 spectre (0/20)
class 3:
3 cruisers (100/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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enemy: 1303 ships
class 1:
923 fighters (1/1)
359 mosquitoes (0/3)
class 2:
10 destroyers (10/10)
class 3:
8 cruisers (100/100)
2 cluster-cruisers (0/60)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)
buildings:
1 transwarp-network (0/100)
1 defensive array (0/500)
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)

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your class 2 vs enemy class 1:


1 heavy shock wave detected: destructed 923 ships

Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
923 fighters

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your class 2 vs enemy class 2:

2 destroyers vs 1 spectre

Losses:
You :
1 spectre
Enemy :
-

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your class 3 vs enemy class 3:


3 cruisers vs 3 battle-drones

9 battle-drones vs 1 cruiser
1 cluster-cruiser deployes 10 ships
3 cruisers vs 3 cruisers

Losses:
You :
3 cruisers
Enemy :
1 cluster-cruiser
3 battle-drones

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your class 4 vs enemy class 4:
Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
-

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Summary:
your losses:
class 3:
3 cruisers
class 2:
1 spectre

enemy losses:
class 1:
923 fighters
class 3:
1 cluster-cruiser
3 battle-drones

[Guest]

yours: 4 ships
class 1:
1 fighter (1/1)
1 bounty hunter (0/1)
class 2:
1 retraitor (10/6)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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enemys: 3 ships
class 4:
3 motherships (0/1000)
1 research center (0/3500)
1 shipyard (0/3500)

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your class 1 vs enemy class 4:


1 fighter vs 1 mothership

Losses:
Enemy :
-
You :
-

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your class 2 vs enemy class 4:


1 retraitor vs 1 mothership

Losses:
Enemy :
-
You :
-

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your class 4 vs enemy class 4

Losses:
Enemy :
-
You :
-

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Summary:
enemy losses:
-

your losses:
-
why was nothing said about the bounty hunter ship in this battle report like a message that it blast

[admin]

i guess the boiunty hunter got his turn before the fighter (it is still a random order) so there were do ships, that he could destroy, otherwise the mothership would have been blasted