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this vote will decide about the future of this invention: |
this can be added to the game |
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it needs some changes but it is a good invention |
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i will post the needed changes here |
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7% |
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no good try another one |
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tec_server Technology Bot
Joined: 04 Nov 2002 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:25 pm Post subject: bird of peace |
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bird of peace (class 4 ship)
a fleet that contains the bird of peace cannot have any other attitude than defense.
attack/life: 0/1000
manpower: 550
speed: warp 8
researchtime: 1 d
buildingtime: 12 h
e-ray-technology
needed research:
science recycle methods
battle details:
fights
(battle engine syntax: f) |
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Kirby Vice Admiral
Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 407 Location: @ Home
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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really helpfull
What does it do exept nothing?? _________________ It's a bird, it's a plane......NO!!! It's KIRBY!!
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spacetrace Board Admin
Joined: 24 Dec 2001 Posts: 1624
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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it's a warp ship |
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Achilles 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 333 Location: Wisconsin-USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Too much mp.
I am afraid that nobody will use this ship if the mp is this high.
Dont forget, not only can you not attack bases, but enemies will soon figure out that you use the Bird of Peace, and they will start setting their fleets to defense at the BH, or anywhere you are.
Also, your alliance mates will have to take their attack codes out whenever you are around with this ship, or accidents will happen.
On the other hand, the Bird of Peace will have no problems around mTWGs
I think the drawbacks are huge. Mp should be around the 400-450 range, and that is high. |
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Achilles 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 333 Location: Wisconsin-USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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And I still love the ship. Its fantastic |
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spacetrace Board Admin
Joined: 24 Dec 2001 Posts: 1624
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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sure , that's true , but that is a defensive victory too , if your enemy chooses the defense attitude.
still needs some programming but i think it is worthy |
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Kirby Vice Admiral
Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 407 Location: @ Home
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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the point about defending is that you cannot fight. Isn't it??
Offcourse this ship is helpfull when you are fighting alliance-members. They have an attack code so they will attack you anyways.
But attacking people with no attack code doesn't work.
I'm not saying that the ship isn't nice. I like it, but don't know if it's very usefull _________________ It's a bird, it's a plane......NO!!! It's KIRBY!!
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spacetrace Board Admin
Joined: 24 Dec 2001 Posts: 1624
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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not everyone would use it , but htis ship is worthy and well belanced.
alliance defending is the main purpose for it. (you are nearly 5 times faster than the attacker !!!)
i think we would have more multi-fleet battles at planets ; and that woul d be fun. |
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Kirby Vice Admiral
Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 407 Location: @ Home
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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spacetrace wrote: | not everyone would use it , but htis ship is worthy and well belanced.
alliance defending is the main purpose for it. (you are nearly 5 times faster than the attacker !!!)
i think we would have more multi-fleet battles at planets ; and that woul d be fun. |
I cannot denie that _________________ It's a bird, it's a plane......NO!!! It's KIRBY!!
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Liderant 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 273 Location: Venezuela
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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i like this ship, but i think it should be mycilloid. They have no fast ship with them.
Anyway, this is the perfect ship for my actual fleet setup! |
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Robert Roy Vice Admiral
Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 525 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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How about trying to implement this one?
It is rewarding for people that only attack fleets instead of open bases and besides it is cool for defending alliance members.
I like this one _________________ Nulla poena sine lege.. |
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Rubens Admiral
Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Posts: 1422
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Bad raze!
Bad research needed!
And too much mp or bad warp or too much lp
This have to be added! Of course if soembody changes it
0/200
Improved targeting
Warp8
300-400 mp |
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Robert Roy Vice Admiral
Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 525 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Micelloid I'd say
Rubens wrote: | This have to be added! Of course if soembody changes it
0/200
Improved targeting
Warp8
300-400 mp |
I'd say 0/400
For the rest your adds look nice.
Admin does this ship stand a chance? Then I will re-invent it _________________ Nulla poena sine lege.. |
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Knight of Truth Admiral
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 2011
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Its pretty good except for the name. Peacebird is better. but ofcourse thats my opinion _________________ [img]http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/599/kot2ks1.jpg[/img]
MicroJak wrote: |
For fuck's sake would you both please stop fucking swearing!!!! |
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Rhynar 2nd Lieutenant
Joined: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 29 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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If it is a bird of peace why dont you make it so that if forces yourself and any opposing fleets to both become on defence mode. It means it can be used like the fleet tender or as a scout. |
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Robert Roy Vice Admiral
Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 525 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Rhynar wrote: | If it is a bird of peace why dont you make it so that if forces yourself and any opposing fleets to both become on defence mode. |
then there is no battle and the game is about fighting
Rhynar wrote: | It means it can be used like a scout. |
better use a normal scout of 50 mp then this one with 400 _________________ Nulla poena sine lege.. |
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Rhynar 2nd Lieutenant
Joined: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 29 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Robert Roy wrote: | Rhynar wrote: | If it is a bird of peace why dont you make it so that if forces yourself and any opposing fleets to both become on defence mode. |
then there is no battle and the game is about fighting |
But it means that you can then use it very effectively at a score planet to extricate a stranded fleet without a mothership. Safer than using the fleet tender. (Especially if u take away the warp drive and give it less mp + mothership)
To give it a hit or miss quality use it as a class 4 ship which is active in class 1, with less defense e.g. 500. It will be similar to the retreat fighter but will cause the whole fleet to disengage from battle.
Robert Roy wrote: | Rhynar wrote: | It means it can be used like a scout. |
better use a normal scout of 50 mp then this one with 400 |
Thats true ....but I suppose with the hit or miss quality you can then get more action and functions even as a scout. |
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Robert Roy Vice Admiral
Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 525 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Rhynar wrote: | But it means that you can then use it very effectively at a score planet to extricate a stranded fleet without a mothership. |
simply don't lose the ms this looks like some thing that would give dumb people an advantage
Rhynar wrote: | Safer than using the fleet tender. (Especially if u take away the warp drive and give it less mp + mothership) |
Get warp out and oyu transform the whole idea of this ship: warpship that only can have defensive attitude.
Rhynar wrote: | Thats true ....but I suppose with the hit or miss quality you can then get more action and functions even as a scout. |
But the hit or miss quality doesn't fit with this ship. It is useless.
If you want to change so much about this ship, just create a new one _________________ Nulla poena sine lege.. |
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Vrictus Admiral
Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 662
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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this is a bit shit
i pay 1000mp for a timeslipper
but it isnt fair that for the same speed, u pay half the mp
sorry, but i think this is real crap |
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Robert Roy Vice Admiral
Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 525 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Vrictus wrote: | i pay 1000mp for a timeslipper
but it isnt fair that for the same speed, u pay half the mp |
Yeah but this one does less then the TS _________________ Nulla poena sine lege.. |
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