Warcruiser

[Dougster]

I was wondering, in the manual it states that a cruiser can successfully defend against one torpedo, but to me that means a second torpedo would destroy it. Is this correct? My only experience was battle reports that stated 10 torpedo interceptions detected, or somesuch.
To my mind 10 cruisers vs 10 warcruisers should result in a 5-5 draw or thereabouts, but I dont think that is what happens.

What should happen??

[spacetrace]

5 cruiser vs. 10 warcruiser

your class 3 vs enemy class 3:
5 torpedo-interceptions detected
4 cruisers vs 2 warcruisers
1 cruiser vs 1 warcruiser

5 torpedoes vs 5 cruisers

Losses:
You :
5 cruisers
Enemy :
2 warcruisers
10 torpedoes

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10 warcruiser vs. 10 cruiser

your class 3 vs enemy class 3:
9 torpedo-interceptions detected
10 cruisers vs 5 warcruisers

1 torpedo vs 1 cruiser

Losses:
You :
1 cruiser
Enemy :
5 warcruisers
10 torpedoes

[Sith]

You can use diable ships! Than the Torpedo-defense sytem of the cruiser doesn't work!!!

That's a nice tactic. But make sure that the diable ships do fight, otherwise they're useless!

[Sith]

ooooops,

I mean disable ships, of course

[Lord Philemon]

@Sith: If you see you wrote something wrong, you can click on "edit" (on the right top of your post) and correct the mistake.
And, yeah the tactic is good, as long as the enemy does not have twice as many cruisers as you have warcruisers.

[peace of love]

so i guess, you think the disable ship is worth staying in the game?

who thinks it should stay?
and what changes are necessary - if any?

[SirTaz]

The disable ship was costly but a good ships I liked one for the base fleet my self and for what you pointed them out for when the enemys fleet has lots of cruisers this ship cuts down the lost but they did cost a bit for a class 2 ship but inreturn,if they got there time to fight they can do alot as well against the right fleet
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A Nanite fleet with a disable ship as the battle go i'll add what happens LoL :wink:this is a battle against interceptors
28.08 21:29:22 - your fleet arrived
29.08 14:24:49 - the enemy fleet arrived

yours: 652 ships
class 1:
150 fighters (1/1)
153 mosquitoes (0/3)
1 commando-fighter (1/1)
11 mine-deployer (0/1)
1 kamikaze (35/1)
4 penguins (4/1)
class 2:
222 destroyers (10/10)
33 c-cannon-modules (0/4)
10 missile-launchers (0/10)
30 troikas (0/10)
1 disable ship (0/10)
class 3:
8 cruisers (100/100)
26 c-cannon-platforms (10/50)
1 cluster-cruiser (0/60)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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enemy: 4503 ships
class 1:
4502 interceptors (0/1)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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your class 1 vs enemy class 1:

11 mines deployed
1 kamikaze destroys 2 ships
1 commando fighter modifies 211 ships
1 kamikaze vs 1 interceptor
4 penguins vs 4 interceptors
139 fighters vs 139 interceptors

142 interceptors intercept 142 ships
87 interceptors intercept 174 ships

Losses:
You :
150 fighters
153 mosquitoes
1 commando-fighter
1 kamikaze
11 mine-deployer
4 penguins
Enemy :
144 interceptors

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your class 2 vs enemy class 2:

2 c-cannon-modules are mounted on 2 ships
2 destroyers vs 2 mines

4 mine-explosions detected

Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
11 mines

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your class 3 vs enemy class 4:

20 c-cannon-platforms vs 1 mothership
10 battle-drones vs 1 mothership
8 cruisers vs 1 mothership
1 cluster-cruiser deployes 10 ships

Losses:
You :
1 cluster-cruiser
10 battle-drones
Enemy :
1 mothership

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Summary:
your losses:
class 1:
150 fighters
153 mosquitoes
1 commando-fighter
1 kamikaze
class 3:
1 cluster-cruiser
class 1:
10 battle-drones
11 mine-deployer
4 penguins

enemy losses:
class 4:
1 mothership
class 2:
11 mines
class 1:
144 interceptors

score: 56
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Nanite fleet with a disable ship battle an Ms

,28.08 21:29:36 - your fleet arrived
30.08 22:59:35 - the enemy fleet arrived

yours: 331 ships
class 2:
222 destroyers (10/10)
33 c-cannon-modules (0/4)
10 missile-launchers (0/10)
30 troikas (0/10)
1 disable ship (0/10)
class 3:
8 cruisers (100/100)
26 c-cannon-platforms (10/50)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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enemy: 1 ships
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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your class 2 vs enemy class 4:

87 destroyers vs 1 mothership
33 troika modules vs 1 mothership
11 troikas separate into 33 ships
8 c-cannon-modules are mounted on 8 ships
4 missiles launched

Losses:
You :
33 troika modules
Enemy :
1 mothership

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Summary:
your losses:
class 2:
33 troika modules

enemy losses:
class 4:
1 mothership

score: 320
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more to come :wink:

[ This Message was edited by: SirTaz on 2002-08-31 03:59 ]

[Dougster]

I wanted to use a disable ship against lord Phil at the hole, but he got beat up before I could build it.
His fleet consisted of mainly missile launchers and shield generators about 100 of each I think, I had planned a one fighter two disable ships and some warcruisers to see how it went. The idea was to get the disable ship to fire hopefully before he got any missiles off.

I know many players have said the disable ship was the worst, but I cant say for sure as I never did get to try it out. I think there are other ships that could be got rid of before it though.

So I think keep it and maybe upgrade it to disable a couple more things.

[Lord Philemon]

Yeah on that day I actually wanted to destroy Taz's class 3 with the missile-launcher but every time he saw I was following him (near the black hole) he changed his direction... So I went against the bh where Duke of Southend was. Unfortunately he had no class 3 and I made about -1500 .
I think disable ships can be good when you know the enemy has sophisticated ships but I also never really got to use them as I liked missile-launchers...

[admin]

it seems the disable ship has more "fans" than e thought so i think it should stay for next round

[peace of love]

can it even though be improved..

i think as it is very special it is rather costy...

maybe it could effect more ships or maybe have a shot against enemy fleet in addition or something ???

(ps: in no case it should be CHEAPER, i think , i d consider to improve it and make it a LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE)

[spacetrace]

maybe it should affect on eship of each race.