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Anon De Mouse Admiral
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 943 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:47 pm Post subject: Question? |
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I have noticed reasently that people hve a fleet for each type of class....
Fleet 1 = class 1
Fleet 2 = class 2
Fleet 3 = class 3
Or how ever it goes, what is the perpose of having your fleets set up like that? _________________ Follow the blood and you will find me!
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WilliamWallace Admiral
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 893
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Well, something like this:
fleet 1: 2000 interceptors, 1 destroyer, 1 cruiser, 1 ms to take out c1
fleet 2: combo of bounty hunters and fighters to damage and kill of c2. and off cours 1 cruiser and 1 ms.
fleet 3: kamikaze ships to deal with c3 ( about 1000 of them ). This fleet is also capable of taking out buildings.
If you attack fleet 1 first, then fleet 2, last fleet 3, you are capable of destroying complete fleets and in very much battle situations you can be the winner of a lot of points.
fleet 1 max points: 1000, when fighting fighters, bulk fighters are even more fun.
fleet 2 max points: about 5 points for each destroyer you kill.
fleet 3 max points: Very much |
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kamekaze6 Admiral
Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 1312 Location: Malta
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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It s usually fleet 1 is made to destroy the lower class(es) to expose the upper classes. if there s alot of class 2 destroy class 1 and then hit class 2 with a second fleet. if theres alot of class 2 and 3 destroy class 1 with fleet 1 and class 2 and 3 with the following fleets. it s not always the rule, for example a swank fleet is best all together not split up _________________ STFU N00B!!!!111!1!
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WilliamWallace Admiral
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 893
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Oops, you said class 2 in fleet 2 and class 3 in fleet 3. Well, I dunno. If you use all kinds of all classes, I should recommend mixing them in 1, 2 or 3 fleets.
But not leaving the ms in fleet 1 and fleet 2 undefended and in your fleet 3 your class 3 ships are vulnerable against c1 and c2 |
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Anon De Mouse Admiral
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 943 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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but they are useing it to defend planets what is the tatical advantage of that? _________________ Follow the blood and you will find me!
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WilliamWallace Admiral
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 893
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Well, spreading your fleets in defense gives more chance of your buildings staying alive. That's just a guess.
I dont defend, so I dont know. |
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Anon De Mouse Admiral
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 943 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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but what about at the score planets? _________________ Follow the blood and you will find me!
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mjx1 Admiral
Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 2258 Location: england
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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its a tactic used in alliance warfare mostly each player chooses a class and attacks with a full fleet of that class so theres not much chance of loosing that way because each player is outnumbering one class _________________ "Although the constant shadow of certain death looms over everyday, the pleasures and joys of life can be so fine and deeply affecting that the heart is nearly stilled by astonishment" - Dean R Koontz |
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Anon De Mouse Admiral
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 943 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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but thats not what happening they are defending, i just am going to send a fleet to destroy them, i was just wondering what the adventage of it was? _________________ Follow the blood and you will find me!
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WilliamWallace Admiral
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 893
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Those fleets are vulnerable, so now I am saying from perspective that a c3 fleet doesnt have 1 fighter and 1 destroyer.
Attack with a fleet consisting of interceptors, kamikazes, fighters and bounty hunters. Dont use penguins, cause kamikazes are better and they dont recycle after c4 battle.
1000 interceptors, 1000 fighters, 200 bounty hunters in fleet 1 moving in at first are nice.
second fleet that comes in: rest of mp full kamikazes. |
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lilkrnboi1018 Admiral
Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 1182 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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i know the use of it, in my old days i had an unhealthy habit of using doomstars in every tactical situation against me, but if their isnt much guys, i lose points _________________ PWNAGE!
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Or the Eagle (RE 3)
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The grounds are soaked... with your blood! |
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Spyder Vice Admiral
Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 565
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:31 am Post subject: |
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perhaps you could provide some probe data so we can be sure of what you are talking about. _________________ Space Mercenaries Inc.
(Temporarily out of business)
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Achilles 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 333 Location: Wisconsin-USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:12 am Post subject: |
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I think I know what he is talking about...
base fleet
1 1 1 4
fleet 1
1500 0 0 0
fleet 2
0 200 0 0
fleet 3
50 1 23 0
Now this is just a rough estimate and a guess of what it could be. Im sure you can see some of the problems inherent in attacking this type of setup. |
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Liderant 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 273 Location: Venezuela
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:30 am Post subject: |
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the best way to deal with that is with class 1.
use 2 fleets:
fleet 1:
1000 interceptors
10 destroyers
3 cruiser
1 mothership
fleet 2:
2000 pinguins
1 mothership |
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Anon De Mouse Admiral
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 943 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:34 am Post subject: |
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enemy: 232 ships
class 2:
180 eagles (2/10, 4 MP)
51 wasps (1/10, 11 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)
enemy: 1001 ships
class 1:
1000 fighters (1/1, 1 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)
enemy: 839 ships
class 1:
838 interceptors (0/1, 1 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)
enemy: 20 ships
class 3:
19 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP
enemy: 29 ships
class 2:
28 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)
enemy: 7 ships
class 3:
6 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP
Thats what i meant what they where trying to do it didnt work very well coz i owned them ! _________________ Follow the blood and you will find me!
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Star Commander Admiral
Joined: 26 Sep 2004 Posts: 1734 Location: Bolton
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:57 am Post subject: |
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William, your partly wrong about the penguins.
The penguins only recycle if the class 4 fight.
So they are aactually better then KamiKaze, as they will not self-destruct after they have thought.
Penguins in fact are better, especially if it just class 3 ships and 1 motherhsip. or even if they are buidings _________________ APEmpire |
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WilliamWallace Admiral
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Well, against buildings Kamikazes are better. You just need less mp. You dont make as much points, but you need less of them. |
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Anon De Mouse Admiral
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 943 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:09 am Post subject: |
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but i still dont understand why they had there fleets stepup like that? Are they just noobs or is there some advantage? _________________ Follow the blood and you will find me!
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Achilles 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 333 Location: Wisconsin-USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:22 am Post subject: |
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Yes, there is, and I didnt make it clear enough in my first post.
You dont know what order your fleets will fight. Therefore, you cant put just one ship in to hold the class for you.
Can you fight with this?
1 1 35 1
Can you fight with this?
1 1 350 1
Can you fight with this?
2000 1 1 1
Who the heck knows? If you fight his fleets in the wrong order, you are screwed.
And Liderants reply to my last post:
"the best way to deal with that is with class 1.
use 2 fleets:
fleet 1:
1000 interceptors
10 destroyers
3 cruiser
1 mothership
fleet 2:
2000 pinguins
1 mothership"
What if that is a stack of Cyclopses in that class three? If you hit it first, you are finished. Either way, it is going to be very difficult to get that base cleared. |
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mackman Vice Admiral
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 597 Location: Orlando, Florida
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Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:07 am Post subject: |
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also wont work if blockade runners are mixed in with that class 1 interceptors will be useless. _________________ SBR A former -TO- empire member. |
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