Recent topics Log in
Search Profile
Memberlist Usergroups
Log in to check your private messages
Register
Question?
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic
SpaceTrace Forum Forum Index » Strategy » Question?
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Anon De Mouse
Admiral
Admiral


Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Posts: 943
Location: Australia

 Post Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:47 pm    Post subject: Question?
Reply with quote

I have noticed reasently that people hve a fleet for each type of class....

Fleet 1 = class 1
Fleet 2 = class 2
Fleet 3 = class 3

Or how ever it goes, what is the perpose of having your fleets set up like that?
_________________
Follow the blood and you will find me!
Vrictus wrote:

just as long as you dont *** out like you did against TO

 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
WilliamWallace
Admiral
Admiral


Joined: 02 May 2005
Posts: 893

 Post Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:51 pm    Post subject:
Reply with quote

Well, something like this:

fleet 1: 2000 interceptors, 1 destroyer, 1 cruiser, 1 ms to take out c1

fleet 2: combo of bounty hunters and fighters to damage and kill of c2. and off cours 1 cruiser and 1 ms.

fleet 3: kamikaze ships to deal with c3 ( about 1000 of them ). This fleet is also capable of taking out buildings.

If you attack fleet 1 first, then fleet 2, last fleet 3, you are capable of destroying complete fleets and in very much battle situations you can be the winner of a lot of points.

fleet 1 max points: 1000, when fighting fighters, bulk fighters are even more fun.

fleet 2 max points: about 5 points for each destroyer you kill.

fleet 3 max points: Very much
 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message
kamekaze6
Admiral
Admiral


Joined: 12 Aug 2003
Posts: 1312
Location: Malta

 Post Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:52 pm    Post subject:
Reply with quote

It s usually fleet 1 is made to destroy the lower class(es) to expose the upper classes. if there s alot of class 2 destroy class 1 and then hit class 2 with a second fleet. if theres alot of class 2 and 3 destroy class 1 with fleet 1 and class 2 and 3 with the following fleets. it s not always the rule, for example a swank fleet is best all together not split up
_________________
STFU N00B!!!!111!1!

Click!!


Last edited by kamekaze6 on Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:54 pm; edited 1 time in total
 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
WilliamWallace
Admiral
Admiral


Joined: 02 May 2005
Posts: 893

 Post Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:53 pm    Post subject:
Reply with quote

Oops, you said class 2 in fleet 2 and class 3 in fleet 3. Well, I dunno. If you use all kinds of all classes, I should recommend mixing them in 1, 2 or 3 fleets.

But not leaving the ms in fleet 1 and fleet 2 undefended and in your fleet 3 your class 3 ships are vulnerable against c1 and c2
 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message
Anon De Mouse
Admiral
Admiral


Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Posts: 943
Location: Australia

 Post Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:55 pm    Post subject:
Reply with quote

but they are useing it to defend planets what is the tatical advantage of that?
_________________
Follow the blood and you will find me!
Vrictus wrote:

just as long as you dont *** out like you did against TO

 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
WilliamWallace
Admiral
Admiral


Joined: 02 May 2005
Posts: 893

 Post Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:57 pm    Post subject:
Reply with quote

Well, spreading your fleets in defense gives more chance of your buildings staying alive. That's just a guess.

I dont defend, so I dont know.
 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message
Anon De Mouse
Admiral
Admiral


Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Posts: 943
Location: Australia

 Post Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:07 pm    Post subject:
Reply with quote

but what about at the score planets?
_________________
Follow the blood and you will find me!
Vrictus wrote:

just as long as you dont *** out like you did against TO

 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
mjx1
Admiral
Admiral


Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Posts: 2258
Location: england

 Post Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:10 pm    Post subject:
Reply with quote

its a tactic used in alliance warfare mostly each player chooses a class and attacks with a full fleet of that class so theres not much chance of loosing that way because each player is outnumbering one class
_________________
"Although the constant shadow of certain death looms over everyday, the pleasures and joys of life can be so fine and deeply affecting that the heart is nearly stilled by astonishment" - Dean R Koontz
 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Anon De Mouse
Admiral
Admiral


Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Posts: 943
Location: Australia

 Post Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:14 pm    Post subject:
Reply with quote

but thats not what happening they are defending, i just am going to send a fleet to destroy them, i was just wondering what the adventage of it was?
_________________
Follow the blood and you will find me!
Vrictus wrote:

just as long as you dont *** out like you did against TO

 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
WilliamWallace
Admiral
Admiral


Joined: 02 May 2005
Posts: 893

 Post Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:54 pm    Post subject:
Reply with quote

Those fleets are vulnerable, so now I am saying from perspective that a c3 fleet doesnt have 1 fighter and 1 destroyer.


Attack with a fleet consisting of interceptors, kamikazes, fighters and bounty hunters. Dont use penguins, cause kamikazes are better and they dont recycle after c4 battle.

1000 interceptors, 1000 fighters, 200 bounty hunters in fleet 1 moving in at first are nice.

second fleet that comes in: rest of mp full kamikazes.
 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message
lilkrnboi1018
Admiral
Admiral


Joined: 16 Apr 2005
Posts: 1182
Location: Pennsylvania, USA

 Post Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:10 pm    Post subject:
Reply with quote

i know the use of it, in my old days i had an unhealthy habit of using doomstars in every tactical situation against me, but if their isnt much guys, i lose points
_________________
PWNAGE!

Gotta love the Magnum (RE 0-3)
Or the Eagle (RE 3)
Leader of DEFIANCE
The grounds are soaked... with your blood!
 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Spyder
Vice Admiral
Vice Admiral


Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 565

 Post Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:31 am    Post subject:
Reply with quote

perhaps you could provide some probe data so we can be sure of what you are talking about.
_________________
Space Mercenaries Inc.

(Temporarily out of business)

 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message
Achilles
1st Rear Admiral
1st Rear Admiral


Joined: 22 May 2003
Posts: 333
Location: Wisconsin-USA

 Post Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:12 am    Post subject:
Reply with quote

I think I know what he is talking about...

base fleet
1 1 1 4

fleet 1
1500 0 0 0

fleet 2
0 200 0 0

fleet 3
50 1 23 0


Now this is just a rough estimate and a guess of what it could be. Im sure you can see some of the problems inherent in attacking this type of setup.
 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger ICQ Number
Liderant
1st Rear Admiral
1st Rear Admiral


Joined: 26 Aug 2003
Posts: 273
Location: Venezuela

 Post Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:30 am    Post subject:
Reply with quote

the best way to deal with that is with class 1.
use 2 fleets:
fleet 1:
1000 interceptors
10 destroyers
3 cruiser
1 mothership

fleet 2:
2000 pinguins
1 mothership
 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Anon De Mouse
Admiral
Admiral


Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Posts: 943
Location: Australia

 Post Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:34 am    Post subject:
Reply with quote

enemy: 232 ships
class 2:
180 eagles (2/10, 4 MP)
51 wasps (1/10, 11 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)

enemy: 1001 ships
class 1:
1000 fighters (1/1, 1 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)

enemy: 839 ships
class 1:
838 interceptors (0/1, 1 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)

enemy: 20 ships
class 3:
19 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP

enemy: 29 ships
class 2:
28 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)

enemy: 7 ships
class 3:
6 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP

Thats what i meant what they where trying to do it didnt work very well coz i owned them !
_________________
Follow the blood and you will find me!
Vrictus wrote:

just as long as you dont *** out like you did against TO

 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Star Commander
Admiral
Admiral


Joined: 26 Sep 2004
Posts: 1734
Location: Bolton

 Post Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:57 am    Post subject:
Reply with quote

William, your partly wrong about the penguins.
The penguins only recycle if the class 4 fight.
So they are aactually better then KamiKaze, as they will not self-destruct after they have thought.
Penguins in fact are better, especially if it just class 3 ships and 1 motherhsip. or even if they are buidings
_________________
APEmpire
 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
WilliamWallace
Admiral
Admiral


Joined: 02 May 2005
Posts: 893

 Post Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject:
Reply with quote

Well, against buildings Kamikazes are better. You just need less mp. You dont make as much points, but you need less of them.
 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message
Anon De Mouse
Admiral
Admiral


Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Posts: 943
Location: Australia

 Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:09 am    Post subject:
Reply with quote

but i still dont understand why they had there fleets stepup like that? Are they just noobs or is there some advantage?
_________________
Follow the blood and you will find me!
Vrictus wrote:

just as long as you dont *** out like you did against TO

 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Achilles
1st Rear Admiral
1st Rear Admiral


Joined: 22 May 2003
Posts: 333
Location: Wisconsin-USA

 Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:22 am    Post subject:
Reply with quote

Yes, there is, and I didnt make it clear enough in my first post.

You dont know what order your fleets will fight. Therefore, you cant put just one ship in to hold the class for you.

Can you fight with this?
1 1 35 1

Can you fight with this?
1 1 350 1

Can you fight with this?
2000 1 1 1

Who the heck knows? If you fight his fleets in the wrong order, you are screwed.

And Liderants reply to my last post:
"the best way to deal with that is with class 1.
use 2 fleets:
fleet 1:
1000 interceptors
10 destroyers
3 cruiser
1 mothership

fleet 2:
2000 pinguins
1 mothership"

What if that is a stack of Cyclopses in that class three? If you hit it first, you are finished. Either way, it is going to be very difficult to get that base cleared.
 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger ICQ Number
mackman
Vice Admiral
Vice Admiral


Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 597
Location: Orlando, Florida

 Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:07 am    Post subject:

also wont work if blockade runners are mixed in with that class 1 interceptors will be useless.
_________________
SBR A former -TO- empire member.
 Back to top »
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
SpaceTrace Forum Forum Index » Strategy » Question?
Post new topic   Reply to topic All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum




Solaris phpBB theme/template by Jakob Persson
Copyright © Jakob Persson 2003



Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Impressum