my class 3 vs 0 class 3?

[Rubens]

If this a bug i want it to be fixed, cuz if it's not it wont be fixed but i am still asking me, if anybody has a bug his time is ricovered. Here i am losing time and pts,
As i had understood if he has no class 3 i should fight vs his class 4, so wtf did happen here?



yours: 16 ships

class 1:
6 fighters (1/1, 1 MP)
1 penguin (4/1, 1 MP)
class 3:
5 cyclopses (0/100, 120 MP)
2 plasma gunship (0/100, 92 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)
1 major reconstructor (0/150, 550 MP)

enemy: 1127 ships
class 1:
1121 bulk fighters (2/4, 3 MP)
class 2:
3 c-cannon-modules (0/4, 20 MP)
class 3:
1 c-cannon-platform (10/50, 30 MP)
1 dreadnought (200/500, 375 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)

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your class 1 vs enemy class 1: V ^
you:
6 fighters
1 penguin
enemy:
1121 bulk fighters

3 fighters vs 1 bulk fighter
2 fighters vs 1 bulk fighter
1 penguin vs 1 bulk fighter


1 bulk fighter vs 1 penguin
6 bulk fighters vs 6 fighters


losses:
you :
6 fighters
1 penguin
enemy :
1 bulk fighter
score in this subbattle: -4

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your class 3 vs enemy class 2: V ^
you:
5 cyclopses
2 plasma gunship
enemy:
3 c-cannon-modules

5 cyclopses destroy 500 ships
2 plasma gun locks on one target and kill 2 ships


1 c-cannon-module is mounted on 1 ship


losses:
you :
-
enemy :
1 c-cannon-platform
1 dreadnought
500 bulk fighters
score in this subbattle: 1905

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your class 3 vs enemy class 3: V ^
you:
5 cyclopses
2 plasma gunship
enemy:





losses:
you :
-
enemy :
-
score in this subbattle: 0

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your class 4 vs enemy class 4: V ^
you:
1 mothership
1 major reconstructor
enemy:
1 mothership





losses:
you :
-
enemy :
-
score in this subbattle: 0

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summary:
your losses:
class 1:
6 fighters
1 penguin

enemy losses:
class 1:
501 bulk fighters
class 3:
1 c-cannon-platform
1 dreadnought

score: 1901

[admin]

it seems ok, he has class 3:

[Rubens]

Wrong, he HAD class 3, as you can see i destroy them at the battle vs his class 2, is that right?So does that mean that if he has class 3 at the begining of the battle i would have to fight them even if they are destroyed?

Why did this came up at the newbie help forum?so weird..

[Rubens]

your class 3 vs enemy class 3: V ^
you:
5 cyclopses
2 plasma gunship
enemy:





losses:
you :
-
enemy :
-
score in this subbattle: 0


There you go, i think i should fought vs class4

[Guest]

i agree with rubens, because if there is a use of the plasma gunship this should be one....

[Guest]

hello are you noobs ????
a plasma can only fight class 3 no class 4
and cyclops can only fight class 1 no class 4

[rubens 7]

You idiot that is not the problem here, and that is a lie. As you can see my cylops fought vs his class 2 so shut up. If you didnt know this cuz YOU are the noob i give you a few examples so you will know how this work.

1000 fighters
100 destroyers
0 cruseros
1 mothership

vs

1 fighter
1 destroyer
10 cylops and 10 apollos
1 mothership

you win 1791 pts. Aand you can then destroy his mothership.

[Connor McCloud]

OK but your cyclopses don't destroy any class 2 ships , and if in the begin of the battle there are class 3 and you kill them in a class 1 or 2 fight your fleet will still be locked on as if there was a class 3 so your plasma won't fight against class 4 because there where class 3 in the beginning of the battle
Same happens when you use sabbotage fighters and class 2 fleet to destroy his class 3 but your class2 are locked on class 2 in the begin of the battle ..
Greetz Connor
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[rubens 7]

Thx, so it's not a bug, i just wanted to know that part of the structure of the BR's

[Rubens]

So is this a bug, or does the class 2 vs class 3 works different?yours: 16 ships

yours : 3 ships

class 3:
1 apollo crusero (0/100, 85 MP)

class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)
1 major reconstructor (0/150, 550 MP)

enemy: 1244 ships
class 1:
1121 bulk fighters (2/4, 3 MP)
class 2:
120 destroyers (10/10 8 MP)
class 3:
1 c-cannon-platform (10/50, 30 MP)
1 dreadnought (200/500, 375 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)

summary

your loses:

class 3:
1 apollo crusero

class 4:
1 mothership
1 major reconstructor

enemy's loses:

class 2

10 destroyers

score: -875

[Death_killer]

NO its not. Your first battle class 3 was cleared by class 3 ships your plasmas so class 3 battle was locked no real reason for this but thats how it is. IN your second battle his class 3 hadnt fought yet since it was taken out by his class 2. So his class 3 fought your class 4. The only was the first situation occurs is when there is direct damage from a class battle to other classes and cleaning them.

[Liderant]

i agree with death_killer, but i dont thing there should be a battle against no ship. I mean, if the plasma gunship destroyed all class 3 before the class 3 battle, then class 3 should fight against class 4. But thats my opinion...

[Rubens]

DK wth are u saiying, didnt understood u.Liderant plz explain it in spanish;)
DK are u saiying that if i had a plasmagunship in my second battle the class 3 wouldnt fight vs my class 4? Anyway i had an apollo so why his class2 fought vs my class 4? i am not talking about 2º subbattle i am talking about the last battle.
If the syntax of the first is right his class 2 should fought my 0 class 3

[Star Commander]

Rubens, I think what has happend is, i aint all that sure but here we go:

As you had no class 1 or 2 the enemys class 1 and 2 will go hitting the next biggest class ship you have so, Enemys class 1 fights no class 1 no class 2 1 class 3 the enemys class 1 would hit that, then the Apollo Cruiser would have shot but hit 10 destroyers but the Bulk Fighter would have delt like 2242 damage points which means it would be destroyed so the class 2 wouldent get to fight that ship, then as you have no class 1 or 2 or 3 left it willl aim at your class 4's, the Major and the Mothership as the next thing in class 4, would have been dealed damge by thte class 3 and class 2 ships.

Hope thats right and expians to you, Greetz
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[Rubens]

Ok i am going to say the tru@ admin this battle has never happened as u can see my score is still raising, but i just wondered what happens with a battle like that. I supose that my class 4 shouldnt b destroyed

@Star comander: well you are now are getting a tip too, cuz let me tell you that you are wrong in a few things.
ONLY the enough ships attacks the enemy.(here i am bad trying to explain it in english,. anyway)JUst 50 bulfkighters would attack my apollo crusero. When a ship is destroyed disappears from the subbattle and you can fight it normally, not even with shockwave cruseros(i think) so my apollo could be reconstructed but that is not the important thing.

Ttry to read all the topic.(this is for everybody) the admin said that if you had ships in someclass before the battle starts there will always remain like that. So i think his class 2 and class 3 should have fought vs my 0 class 3.

Besides i dont think his class 2 can attack my class 4 when it's IMPOSSIBLE that his class 3 attacks my class 3 when u take admin's words.

Ffrom here i would like to ask the admin how would that battle work? 80 pts are always important

[Spyder]

It is the old question, bug or feature, I think there should have been a class 3 vs 4 battle, but it seems if plasmas destroy class 3 before the class 3 battle, then that counts as class 3 battle over.

A similar thing sometimes happens with sabotage fighters, but only on one side which is worse. I dont have any br to show at present.
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[Rubens]

So i need to take out each class 2 so he wont attack my class 4?
dont get u...i dont know if this is an old question but it should be answered, can someone move this to bug reports? seems that the admin dosnt pay too much attention to this topic.
This can seriously change the game at least for me. I never had knowledge about this part of the BR's structure.

[dakingnl]

lol

[Rubens]

STFU mate, i am waiting for the admin's words and you are spaming? Get the hell out

[Death_killer]

Battle structure : Considering Swank which you are probably using

Your class 3 vrs enemy class 1 : Usual battle

Your class 3 vrs enemy class 2 : usual battle

Your class 3 vrs 0 class 3 : If he didnt have any class 3 from the beginning of the battle you will fight class 4 if he did and has 0 there will be no battle. If there are ships you will have a normal class 3 battle.

If you lose class 3 ships against class 2: His class 3 would fight your class 4 since there werent involved in any class fight yet that is why you cant do the same because if you have plasma they fight class 3 directly which IS the class battle. So there is no bug

deathkiller
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