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 Post Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 11:33 pm    Post subject:
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And one information
DON'T HAVE PERFECT FLEET.
All fleets have weak point.

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 Post Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 2:56 pm    Post subject:
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if you want to fight against an eagle fleet
i think for an human the only way to get points is a dreadsnought !!!!!


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 Post Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 2:58 pm    Post subject:
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year darklim your 100% right!!!!!!


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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 6:07 am    Post subject:
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Only have fleet that have more advantage than others.
The Eagle fleet is one.
Or the Doomstars fleets.

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 Post Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:58 am    Post subject:
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Well for humans the dreadnought is not to only way to kill the eagle fleet.If they have a fleet of eagles with no class 1 you could use 4000 fighters+commandos to kill eagles.You could throw in some bountyhunters with that mix.
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 Post Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:31 pm    Post subject:
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ahhh. nooo. once again people have blindsided the troika and its wonderful power. A troika fleet can easily wipe out a eagle fleet. I'll show you. Say he has 800 eagles. All you need is around 300 or less troikas and a campaign ship and/or hammer and you'll get tons of points or lose very little. All depends. If the hammer works, your in for a lot of points =)
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 Post Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 4:54 pm    Post subject:
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@mackman: that is true but your fleet will be very vulnerable to other types of fleets. @blackmagic: you are right unless the eagle fleet too, has a hammer and campaign ship =) then things will be different somehow. not sure how though =)
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 Post Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 2:21 am    Post subject:
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Troikas didnt do so well here...

yours: 1293 ships
class 1:
1 fighter (1/1, 1 MP)
520 interceptors (0/1, 1 MP)
1 sporator (0/1, 5 MP)
class 2:
49 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
670 eagles (2/10, 4 MP)
50 wasps (1/10, 11 MP)
class 3:
1 cruiser (100/100, 60 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)

enemy: 667 ships
class 1:
473 fighters (1/1, 1 MP)
class 2:
78 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
84 troikas (0/10, 16 MP)
class 3:
31 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)
buildings:
1 transwarp-network (0/100, 0 MP)
1 defensive array (0/500, 0 MP)
1 research center (0/3500, 0 MP)
1 shipyard (0/3500, 0 MP)


- click here to see the complete battlereport -



summary:
your losses:
class 1:
286 interceptors
1 fighter
class 2:
147 eagles
10 destroyers
15 wasps
class 3:
1 cruiser

enemy losses:
class 1:
473 fighters
class 2:
59 destroyers
68 troikas
204 troika modules
class 3:
1 cruiser

score: 913
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 Post Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:09 pm    Post subject:
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well they didn't have the campaign ship and hammer that were part of Blackmagic's strategy
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 Post Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:20 pm    Post subject:
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The Troika is only have one use.
Is a support to help others ships.
So the combination of standard ship and Troika is bad.
But some Human ship can help
Like the Dreadnought.

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 Post Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 7:35 pm    Post subject:
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The problem with that battle report was that the guy had too many destroyers. If he had only 10 destroyers, a little over 180 troikas, and 1 cruiser, im preety sure i would have worked. Maybe better if he had a campaign ship.....Yup he would have killed you.

See look at these:
yours: 157 ships
class 2:
15 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
125 troikas (0/10, 16 MP)
class 3:
16 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)

enemy: 476 ships
class 1:
2 holo-fleet-carriers (0/10, 45 MP)
class 2:
263 eagles (2/10, 4 MP)
23 alliance-invaders (0/10, 10 MP)
2 spectres (0/10, 400 MP)
172 wasps (1/10, 11 MP)
class 3:
13 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)

summary:
your losses:
class 2:
66 troikas
303 troika modules
6 destroyers
class 3:
12 cruisers

enemy losses:
class 1:
2 holo-fleet-carriers
troopers:
350 probe-troopers
ships:
100 holo fighters
class 2:
95 eagles
6 holo destroyers
64 wasps
8 alliance-invaders
2 spectres
class 3:
13 cruisers
2 holo cruisers

score: 1010


or.....

yours: 321 ships
class 1:
100 fighters (1/1, 1 MP)
class 2:
25 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
178 troikas (0/10, 16 MP)
class 3:
17 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)

enemy: 405 ships
class 2:
168 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
183 eagles (2/10, 4 MP)
8 holo-clone-ships (0/5, 12 MP)
1 spectre (0/10, 400 MP)
19 wasps (1/10, 11 MP)
class 3:
25 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)

summary:
enemy losses:
class 2:
102 eagles
87 destroyers
5 holo-clone-ships
1 spectre
10 wasps
9 troika modules
class 3:
16 cruisers

your losses:
class 1:
100 fighters
class 2:
58 troikas
174 troika modules
8 destroyers
class 3:
17 cruisers

score: 522

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 Post Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:44 pm    Post subject:
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I like Doomstars(as long as it's mine )

yours: 5 ships
class 1:
1 fighter (1/1, 1 MP)
class 2:
1 shield generator (0/2, 4 MP)
class 3:
1 cruiser (100/100, 60 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)
1 doomstar (0/900, 2300 MP)

enemy: 2145 ships
class 1:
2012 fighters (1/1, 1 MP)
50 commando-fighters (1/1, 10 MP)
class 2:
50 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
1 pirate ship (0/5, 15 MP)
class 3:
31 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)



summary:
enemy losses:
class 1:
2012 fighters
50 commando-fighters
class 2:
50 destroyers
1 pirate ship
class 3:
31 cruisers

your losses:
class 1:
1 fighter
class 2:
1 shield generator
class 3:
1 cruiser
class 4:
1 doomstar

score: 2422
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 Post Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:01 pm    Post subject:
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This is more interested.
Yours: 1 ship
Class 1:
Prophet (4000/1,150 MP)

Enemy: 1 ship
Class 4:
Doomstar (0/900,2300 MP)

Summary
Enemy losses
1 Doomstar

Your losses
1 Prophet

Score: 2150

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 Post Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 10:08 pm    Post subject:
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that was luck though wasn't it?
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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 8:10 pm    Post subject:
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thats more than luck!
this happens 1 time per round!



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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 8:30 pm    Post subject:
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Yeah.
But the Doomstar have weak point.
Is very bad figting only class 4.

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 Post Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 3:35 am    Post subject:
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hahaha. you got that right!!
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 Post Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 5:00 am    Post subject:
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Maybe so but in both your BR your enemy has far less eagles than I did and also I see he had spectres thats where you got most of your points.If anyone can post a BR with a better eagle fleet vs. troikas that would help a bit more.
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 Post Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 5:23 am    Post subject:
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The Troika + Campaign Ship is one of the best combination to fight others class 2 fleet

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 Post Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 7:55 pm    Post subject:

DUH! Thats wat i have been trying to explain to everybody, but noooooooooooooooooooooo. They hate the troika.
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