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tec_server Technology Bot
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:00 pm Post subject: evaporator |
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evaporator (class 1 ship)
the evaporator emits a high frequency holo-beam to absorb an enemy's energy whenever it gets modified. as a result it redirects the energy into a holo-drain device that destroys one enemy vessel
attack/life: 1/2
manpower: 12
researchtime: 2 d
buildingtime: 14 h
e-ray-technology
needed research:
holo technology
battle details:
1. fights
(battle engine syntax: f)
2. if this ships LP or AP are increased or decreased it modifies LP by -5000 of 1 ship of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in the same class but some ships and buildings are immune against this effect
battlemessage: "evaporator destroys ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: trigger_plus@kill,enemy,1,this,all,evaporator destroys)
3. trigger_destroy it modifies LP by -5000 of 1 ship of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in the same class but some ships and buildings are immune against this effect
battlemessage: "evaporator destroys ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: trigger_destroy@kill,enemy,1,this,all,evaporator destroys) |
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mdellis 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 296 Location: Aldershot, UK
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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the description sounded a little strabge. i assume it destroys one ship in its own class unless there are none, whereupon it will attack the next class up, as per the usual rules? how much manpower?
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JaM Admiral
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 1300
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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No, it just needs an attack to determine the location of the energy center of the ship it wants to destroy.
Nothing in the description says that it destroys the ship that attacked him.
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mackman Vice Admiral
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 597 Location: Orlando, Florida
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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I dont understand this ship?If it destroys 1 ship in the same class and it is class 1 it is useless 12mp to kill 1 class 1??Can you fight cyclopses or spectres with this ship?
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Space Ghost Commander
Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 80
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Its my lovely deathadder with a name change and one testicle removed. Humm as tazz would say. |
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spacetrace Board Admin
Joined: 24 Dec 2001 Posts: 1624
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:29 am Post subject: |
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dear space ghost i must apologize, but maybe if i tell you my dilemma you may understand my decision:
- yes we removed one testical, but it has still two... like it should be
- we made this surgery and we decided to give it a new , more eray, name
i hope you will not stop making nice and needed ships to scare the lazy fleet constructors |
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BladeTech Admiral
Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Posts: 1591
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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i'm sorry but can anyone explain this ship to me in human language? lol the description is too high-tech for me |
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Weylyn Admiral
Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 691 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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You shoot it ---> it kills you
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doomstar Vice Admiral
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 408
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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I have no idea what is the attacking method of the ship????
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doomstar Vice Admiral
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 408
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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@Weylyn, that mean a Fighter or a Destroyer or a Cruiser will be destroy as soon as the ship attack Evaporator?
What about the Dreadnaught shock wave attack? Will that mean I lose my Dreadnaught?
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steven1982 Admiral
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 970 Location: Zwolle, the Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yes your dreadnought will be lost, even worse, because your dreadnought shockwave effects 100 ships, most likely is that all evaporators in ennemy fleet will be activated, and all will destroy one ship (so there goes ure class 3) however this effect is quite simple to counter, just have 1 fighter in fleet with your dreads
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Weylyn Admiral
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Eerr, no. As far as I know the dreads will still attack 25 class-1 anyway, activating 25 evaporators. The only remedy I know of is to use proper fighter cover to kill the evaporators to kill them before the sw-ships activate.
Not that I mind, I don't use class-3
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steven1982 Admiral
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 970 Location: Zwolle, the Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Well lol doomstar was talking about the dreadnought shockwave (which does 1 damage to 100 ships) offcourse this only works if dread fights class 1 directly, then the dread kills 126 class one ships .
However i am not sure about what i say now:
If you have one fighter, the evaporator allready had his turn, so if the dread/cyclops/spectre uses his special ability in another class when class 1 battle allready happend, i believe that the evaporator is not effective.
NOT SURE about above, admin pls tell me.
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Weylyn Admiral
Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 691 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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I beleive the evaporator had a trigger that killed any ship that midifies it lp. That would mean that any evaporators surviving the class-1 battle would be effective. And hey, this is Ideal for protecting my penguins in a C1vC3 strike.
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steven1982 Admiral
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 970 Location: Zwolle, the Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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@weylyn
Quote: | trigger_destroy it modifies AP and LP by -5000/-5000 of 1 ship of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in the same class |
That would mean it only destroys special ships if they are fighting against his class if i am not wrong.
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KEPcH Vice Admiral
Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 487
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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If anything needs to be changed it's the mp: 12mp and you can wipe out a dreadnought??
Don't even try to make me see the balance in that. |
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blackmagic Admiral
Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 1157 Location: GP
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it is a class 1 ship. So, naturally the mp will be low.
LOL I find this very amusing because i have never seen this ship anywhere. Else, i might have posted earlier. This is a very interesting ship, but i wonder whether it could be abused in its use against higher classes.
BTW I don't understand why the battle syntax repeats twice. Does it attack twice? I think this ship would be more balanced if it maybe seld destructed or something. That way the person with the higher class my have some chance and the person using it has a certain amount of risk involved =) _________________ From the deepest depths of the Galaxy, a new
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spacetrace Board Admin
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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there are two trigger because it shall be sensitive to cycplops too... |
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steven1982 Admiral
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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I have fought this ship a couple of times as a deathadder, it is a real cool ship and nicely balanced, and basic of it is quite simple if you attack it (dread/cyclops/spectre, or normal shot), it destroys 1 ship in the class it is fighting in, so if you are terribly afraid to lose your dreads, just be sure you have a class 1 available to keep your dread e.g. save. This ship is meant to get the highly used class 3 fleets more vulnurable, and forces people to use class one. So the "easy" class 3 fleet becomes a bit harder to handle, therefor not only the ship is balanced, it also helps balancing the game .
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Joined: 26 Dec 2002 Posts: 1243 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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ah, this ship is the cheapest way to destroy a defensive array Nice. Well, since it destroyed me Defarray... guess not so nice _________________ _____________________________________________
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