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Czar Petar 1st Lieutenant
Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 39
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:41 am Post subject: |
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I was attacked by 1500 penguins and one flying soucer. nothing else. MS came 5 minutes later...
I know there was a bug that you could send fleet, and remove ms from it at last moment. I thought it was fixed.
Also very iritating... |
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Spyder Vice Admiral
Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 565
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Not a bug, a tactic, who used it??
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Czar Petar 1st Lieutenant
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:01 am Post subject: |
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No tactic, a bug...
if it is a tactic, then it should be in manual. new players should know for 'tactic'
also there was a bug ith Battle Pause if you joined fleets, then you would have 'unbattled' fleet, alougth one of those just battled.
Tactic is how you combine ships, but how you move it is a rule. and all the rules must be in manual, or community will never grow. |
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Spyder Vice Admiral
Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 565
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:06 am Post subject: |
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Bollocks, the rule is, a flying saucer can only move by itself. You can always move ships from fleet to fleet. If you move say 1500 penguins into a fleet flying a saucer, the fleet stops dead, according to the Rule.
If the players has managed to do that over your planet, that is the tactic.
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Czar Petar 1st Lieutenant
Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 39
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:12 am Post subject: |
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No he did it BEFORE!!!
And then he sent fleet with FS and 1500 P
And then ms!
not over my planet. he came to my planet like that! |
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doomstar Vice Admiral
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 408
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:13 am Post subject: |
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What are you talking about Spyder? To move a fleet to attack, without a Mothership is a bug. No argument since that is the point of giving class 4 warp ability. |
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Spyder Vice Admiral
Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 565
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:47 am Post subject: |
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@Lou, if what you say is correct, I have no idea.
@ Doom two fleets travelling together have always been able to move ships from one to the other. If one of the fleets is a saucer and you move something into that fleet, The fleet stops moving. This is what I thought had happened to lou. So the point about class 4 warp ability is irrelevent. I repeat @lou who did it, the only person I know who uses this tactic is one of yourn, and it obviously wasnt him.
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Connor McCloud Admiral
Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 916 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:29 am Post subject: |
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If you move your ships to a FS then this fleet will stop at the nearest coords , so they will battle without a MS and your Penguines don't recycle . I know Darkrider of zonnetje uses this tactic and he is not TO |
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kamekaze6 Admiral
Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 1312 Location: Malta
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:48 am Post subject: |
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u better hope admin fixes it soon motherfucker, i always have a flying saucer
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Dutchbatter Admiral
Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 848 Location: Hardenberg, the Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:19 am Post subject: |
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On 2005-02-10 03:47, Spyder wrote:
@ Doom two fleets travelling together have always been able to move ships from one to the other. If one of the fleets is a saucer and you move something into that fleet, The fleet stops moving. This is what I thought had happened to lou. So the point about class 4 warp ability is irrelevent. I repeat @lou who did it, the only person I know who uses this tactic is one of yourn, and it obviously wasnt him.
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Spyder has right, in this way it works. But the admin knows about this, i already told him a couple months ago about this bug/problem/tactic. He asked to it on me, so i told him how it works. But it isn't fixed, so i think this will be a tactic and no bug, because admins fix bugs.
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Dutchbatter Admiral
Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 848 Location: Hardenberg, the Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:20 am Post subject: |
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But there are more players who is using this tactic, i know 2 players who use it. But they are not TO. One of them who is using it i have in my DSP, i have no DSP on players of my own ally
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Weylyn Admiral
Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 691 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Now here's something new...
Seeing as how I practically always use penguins, I might want to remember this... Like you said, all is fair in love and war...
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Dutchbatter Admiral
Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 848 Location: Hardenberg, the Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed weylyn. You can use it on me, is allowed and i am not gonna cry if you gonna attack me. As long it is possible to use, it is allowed.
So take your benefit with this, so i will do it also
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Grolsch Commander
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 94 Location: Enschede
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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Both should not be possible.
Lou's bug is a bug
The oter is also because you are not at his base but mostly you are at 0.40 sectors (= 40 ly = 40 * 365 * 3600 * 3.00E5 km) from it. And the rule is that the fs can only provide warp for itself so it should stop at that point. But since that is not implemented, it is rounded off and you at the base. So it is a bug in the form that you travel (maximum of) 15 minutes illegal (by warp 5)
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Brutus Vice Admiral
Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 428
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Its a bug. Maybe i am wrong, but if u take your ms to another fleet and then the penguins and flying saucer should stop. Cause only class4 has warp abilities, so flying saucer and penguins cant fly any further |
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kamekaze6 Admiral
Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 1312 Location: Malta
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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lol so if u get stuck at 333.4/399/39 for example how do u get ur fleet back?? do u have to like respawn??
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steven1982 Admiral
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 970 Location: Zwolle, the Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Just don't make it possible to move ships in a sole flying saucer fleet while in flight
Problem solved
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Achilles 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 333 Location: Wisconsin-USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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The same thing can be done with motherships alone, no flying saucers needed. The only reason flying saucers are used is because they are cheaper, so you can have a larger fleet to drop.
Problem not solved.
As far as I am concerned, problem non existant. If someone is going to take the time to drop ships on you, he deserves the points (if he wins). There are a lot of risks to using this tactic. It is easy to strand your own ships, you MUST log on in time, and sometimes you have to make sacrifices to get your ships out.
If it were a bug, admin would have outlawed it when they first heard about it, probably about a year ago, when it was first developed. |
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JaM Admiral
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 1300
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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That with the motherships is solved. And you do NOT need to log on in time. Moving ships between ships, setting attitudes and set other targets can be donce full automatically with a schedueler (the defacto cron suffice) and the Admiral python module.
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Guidop Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 73
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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well Lou
lets talk about an other bug during that battle
i checked 2 minutes before the DSP on you
there was only class 4 at you base
i moved the penguins 2 the same minute to the flying saucer and you still got nothing else on your base fleet
and than i have to find out in the BR you have ships in all classes
just instantly from 1 second to the other
thats what i call a bug if not scrambled i want to see wat ships are on places
and if you drop penguins this way they don't recycle but thats only an advance if you fighting more fleets at the same coords
why wasn't my DSP not accurate and calling yes just in time produktion was ready
get lost i don't believe that than there would be more produced than just needed course battle before was not that long ago so you didn't have enough produktion time to adapt it on my fleets attacking you
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