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mdellis
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 Post Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:52 am    Post subject:
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we in thetradefed believe that the tfp alliance r definately multi-ing. their times on are very similar, particularly these:
O* Wookie of Tatooine (5hrs 4min)
O* sneaky of globe (5hrs 2min)
O* Solo of Dagobath (5hrs 4min)
O* skydevil of skyplease (10hrs)
O* funny of veryhot (10hrs)
O* Killer-instinct of death-star(8hrs 57min)
O* Leia of Jabba the Hut (3hrs 52min)
O* Viking of Valhalle (7hrs 20min)
O* ub of tredegar (4days 10hrs)
O* Connory of Rokal (4day 10hrs)
O* Connor McCloud of highlands (1hr 42min)
as u see, they also hav similar names. however, we cant link all of the alliance to this as we dont have all their names
we also have battlereport evidence. this from our alliance leader:
10.06 07:06
your base fights against fleet 1 from skydevil of skyplease at xxxx
10.06 04:34:06 - the enemy fleet arrived
yours: 20 ships
class 2:
9 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
2 mobile repair bots (1/10, 5 MP)
9 troikas (0/10, 16 MP)
class 4:
buildings:
1 research center (0/3500, 0 MP)
enemy: 29 ships
class 1:
1 bounty hunter (0/1, 4 MP)
6 kamikaze (35/1, 1 MP)
class 2:
6 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
2 pirate ship (0/5, 15 MP)
class 3:
4 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP)
4 apollo cruiser (0/100, 85 MP)
2 dreadnoughts (200/500, 375 MP)
2 warcruisers (0/200, 100 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)
1 time slipper (250/500, 1000 MP)


- click here to see the complete battlereport -



summary:
enemy losses:
class 1:
1 bounty hunter
6 kamikaze
class 2:
6 destroyers
2 pirate ship
class 3:
2 torpedoes
your losses:
class 2:
9 troikas
12 troika modules
2 mobile repair bots
9 destroyers
score: -138


10.06 07:06
your base fights against fleet 2 from funny of veryhot at 459/484/42
10.06 04:31:02 - the enemy fleet arrived
yours: 99 ships
class 1:
48 fighters (1/1, 1 MP)
23 intruders (1/1, 2 MP)
class 2:
12 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
4 mobile repair bots (1/10, 5 MP)
12 troikas (0/10, 16 MP)
class 4:
buildings:
1 transwarp-network (0/100, 0 MP)
1 research center (0/3500, 0 MP)
enemy: 527 ships
class 1:
500 penguins (4/1, 1 MP)
class 2:
15 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
class 3:
8 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP)
2 cyclopses (0/100, 120 MP)
1 minor reconstructor (0/100, 100 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)


- click here to see the complete battlereport -



summary:
your losses:
class 1:
48 fighters
23 intruders
class 2:
3 destroyers
3 troikas
24 troika modules
2 mobile repair bots
class 4:
buildings:
1 transwarp-network
enemy losses:
class 1:
500 penguins
class 2:
13 destroyers
score: -33

as u can see these two players, funny of veryhot and skydevil of skyplease, have IDENTICAL ATTACK TIMES. they also have IDENTICAL LOGOFF TIMES. it is unlikely that noobies (as we have proved them to be time and time again)such as the TFP would be able to coordinate such a precise attack without being multi. PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS! we in thetradefed might be a highly elite 3 person alliance, but we cant stand being swamped by 14odd players at 1 time. (even 2 of us hav taken on 5 at once and still won wiv minimal loss!)

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 Post Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:17 pm    Post subject:
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i think that you are right you should post this to the admin now!

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 Post Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:30 pm    Post subject:
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I have noticed this before about TFP and reported some of them. There were many with "Steps are already taken against this user" message already in the area where you can report suspected multis, which you can find by clicking on a players name, then clicking "view planet", next click "see lastest attacks on this player". At the bottom you will see a box saying "Report this user as a suspected multi to Investigator of The Travellersor" or this message:"Steps are already taken against this user". Try this on the TFP members and see how many have the second message. If you see the "Steps are already taken against this user" message, it means that player had enough evidence against him to be convicted of being a multi and was given a warning. Also I belive they TFP had to close some accounts but I think they just opened new ones. Please report any of them you suspect. I have done so with a few of them, and others had already been reported when I first checked. I think it may be time to do our own housekeeping. Time for war! See: http://forum.spacetrace.com/viewtopic.php?topic=2730&forum=21&0

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 Post Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:16 pm    Post subject:
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children cheldren children.

Everu time you guys have a big mouth and now youre ass get kicked by the TFP you must cry baby.
Sure is my ass where kicked by the tfp i should shame me to.
So if youre ass get's kicked youre point youre finger at multi-account.

well i can tell you:

we always or same time online because:

we work together at the same company:
maybe we make appointmenst to go online(maybe you must do the same instead od crying)

ciao,

little child,




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 Post Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:46 pm    Post subject:
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My ass is not being kicked by TFP. I do remember first noticing your multi activies a while back when I checked out your online times before I hit one of your bases on a retal attack. Several TFP members had log off times increments of a few minutes as if someone was logging out of one account to log onto another. I noticed this several time after that also. So I went to report these members, and 2 or 3 of them already had been convicted by the investigators. I reported the others and they were convicted also. I then checked other TFP I had on com and found other previous convictions. The investigators do not find you guilty if there is not sufficeint evidence that you are multis. I don't mind losing points to players or being attacked, but I do mind multis. Also one would think if you were all grown ups at some company you would have a positive point balance instead of being where you are now, well in the negative( as of the last time negative alliace points were shown). So I would venture that you are a few players with many accounts, feeding off of some of the multi accounts to boost individual player points.



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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:44 am    Post subject:
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i am a little confused now. wasn't you yupyup a warrior member? why do you defend the other alliance? that means that you are a multi too?
thats ok with me, because anyhow i am making points out of you
right now going to your planet
why am i getting boried about multis?...because they always give you easy points...
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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 2:06 am    Post subject:
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@yupyup, that could very well be ure argument, admin will look into it, and tell us for sure. However i have never been kicked by FTP, but i just hate multies. So you better be sure admin does not find prove against you, else it will be felt.
If you will be proven unguilty, i will withdraw my words!
I am not trying to push fair players out of this game, so if not guilty please consider this amount of posting as just players trying to keep this game fair.

Greets

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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 4:56 am    Post subject:
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I just checked out YupYup's view planet and see lastest attacks on this player. Here is what I found:

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these are the latest attacks on YupYup of South limburg

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next 5

Steps are already taken against this user


Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!!!
Looks like we have ourselves a convicted multi here. I knew TFP and Warriors exchanged members from time to time to share transwarp but did not think that Warriors may be multis also. If I were in the warriors, I think I would want to have the multi's booted out.

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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:05 am    Post subject:
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As you all know by now, I play for TFP. WE have all been accused of being multies.
But why because we log in and out at similar times. Simple reason. We all work together. And we plan our actions together. This means that we often login together.

Ok,we have a couple (4 to be exact) players with a multi history. But they gave up their extra accounts after receiving a warning from the admin.

This is all started by General Hammond and Hitman. They were attacking one of us again and again. And we warned them of the consequences. So a group of us destroyed them. But in their birdbraines that can't be done with that kind of precision by a group of noobs. So the obvious answer is that it must be multi.

Well I got news for you all. No multi's in this alliance anymore. But a group that works together at a level that you can't. But the results show clearly that this is not enough. You guys win on experiance. We do it by working together.

If that is something you can't handle, than that is your problem. Learn how to defend against our way of fighting.

Stop this witchhunt. Or we will find you after this is done
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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:24 am    Post subject:
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LoL, you will find me?! BRING IT ON!
I have dealt with your kind before, and they ran with their tail between their legs.

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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:38 pm    Post subject:
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So instead of working you all use the companys computers and play games?What kind of place is this hell i need to get a job there get paid to play spacetrace.

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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:58 pm    Post subject:
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Mackman is right. Sounds like a dream job to me!
I want in!


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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 5:35 pm    Post subject:
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@ Yup Yup, Yeah, what company is it?

I know you are all dutch people, i am dutch too. So tell me what company it is, than i can look there for a job too.

I need some work for the holidays, and if i can combine it with ST, that would be great.

Tell your boss i am coming.
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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 5:44 pm    Post subject:
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Ok wait a minute.

Yup Yup tell your boss there's two of us coming.

I will be dutch too and searching for a job (read money for summer vacation) and well ST has to go on.

Here we come. Working in Limburg

Nice.

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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:12 pm    Post subject:
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On 2004-06-12 08:05, vikingnl wrote:
WE have all been accused of being multies.
But why because we log in and out at similar times. Simple reason. We all work together. And we plan our actions together. This means that we often login together.


well, well, well. i think i hav a few points to make. first of all is that for ur information general hamond and i r both m8s who go 2 the same college. we sometimes coordinate our attacks wen we r at college, but that doesnt mean that we hav to hav identical logout times, or identical attack times. if we meet briefly then we inform each other of any developments and we each logon in our own time to sort things out. we will we also comunicate wen at home by mobile, msn and spacetrace mail. we only ever meet together at the same time wen planning a crucial thrust against a planet that when we will b badly outnumbered and our choice of ships will b crucial. our organisation is far greater than theirs, and so is our teamwork, and the points reflect this. is it that u in the tfp hav to pool ur braincells together at the same time in order to make any sense of the game?
"this is all started by general hamond and hitman". correction. as far as i know, general hamond goes where he likes and vapes who he likes. and, i stand up for his decision to attack, and continue to attack the tfp. he finds potential points and wins them. honourably. he always hunts alone, we all do, so its a perfectly fair 1 on 1 situation. we only come together in times of total war. i think that its the tfp who need to know how to defend if they feel that the only protection against attack is 'swamp' tactics! i myself hav only become involved in this war in the last wk or so. this is at the request of general hamond, as he was finding himself under dire attack from several tfp members. it was no longer a hunt, one of our homourable players had been taken appart by numbers and i take that personally; that meant war! i myself hav not been attacking very often or 4 very long, and i received no warning from them as they claim. thirdly, we wer very careful about the evidence that we selected and presented for the forum, and as i was previously unaware, it seems that they hav tried to cheat before, and that those cheating members are still hiding among their ranks. we do not believe that u simply work together. that is the simple answer. as i hav already stated; hamond and i r at the same college, and we dont hav identical times. if u r at work, and u work at separate desks and computers, then u shudnt b able 2 know exactly wen each other logon or off, so u shudnt hav the same times. its a complete no-brainer excuse that 'u work in the same place and hav the same logon'. u think that it will counter the evidence against u. well, it could be true, but it is very likely a multi and it must be investigated, and subsequently corrupted players will be purged. "Stop this witchhunt".... NO! lol. so there! but u r right, it IS a witchunt. there r multis out there, not just in the tfp, and they ruin the game for everyone. bear that in mind. also bear this in mind; an entire group of adults cant beat a trio of college kids!! i think u shud quit spacetrace just from shame of that. so THERE!

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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:26 pm    Post subject:
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Here are some multi characteristics:

-Login and logout almost at the same time (2 minuts diference)
-Unexperincied players with simple ships
-Massive attacks, with no point (there are even multi's fleets that doesnt have the chance to fight)
-They generally destroy bases
-They generally lost points
-Like criminals they always say "i didnt do it", "i am not a multi"
-They use more than 1 mothership in a fleet
-Use similars names (no imagination, or the same, lol)

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 Post Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 7:11 am    Post subject:
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mdellis, use interpunction (, . ) and CAPITALS

And make use of alinea's.
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 Post Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 8:16 am    Post subject:
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that is correct i play for the alliance warriots.
But i know that the TFP and Warriors is NOT multi. So fuck off.
Accuse somebody else.

And if somebody want a piece of us, why WAIT?? come and get it!!! LOL

YupYup

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 Post Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:25 am    Post subject:
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dont worry, we will have many pieces of you
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 Post Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:30 am    Post subject:

We will take you apart piece by piece.
In war you must be prepared. You obviously have much to learn yupyup.

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