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 Post Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 12:32 pm    Post subject:
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the blob (class 2 ship)

a special defensive class 2 ship, its shields deflect one point of the attackers ap to its own lp.

it can only add lp when fighting in its own class.


attack/life: 1/20
manpower: 20

researchtime: 2 d
buildingtime: 12 h


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battle details:fights
(battle engine syntax: f)
if this ship is hit it modifies AP/LP by 0/+1 of itself in your own fleet in class 2
(battle engine syntax: ,self,1,2,itself,+,0,1)
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 Post Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 1:52 pm    Post subject:
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so if 3 destroyers attack it, it will be killed but it will have 23 lp on moment of kill (but 2 destroyers will not kill it)???!!!

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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:09 pm    Post subject:
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3 Destroyer is better than this

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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 6:05 pm    Post subject:
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This ship is much to powerful against fighters.
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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:13 pm    Post subject:
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It is only supposed to have the effect against class 2, like interceptors only mod class one, dont know if the modifier is correctly written for that or not, perhaps Jam can tell me.
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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject:
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it is an original invention.
So it covers 1 of the BON (Balanced, Origanl, Needed)

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it can only add lp when fighting in its own class.

it should be: it can only add lp when fighting against the similar class of the enemy.
That is not possible with the current battlesyntax.
Interceptors can only mod the class one because it modifies class 1 ships and that can only be happening in the class 1 vs class 1 battle. If there is a class 1 vs class {2,3,4} battle the enemy don't have class 1, so nothing will be modified.

This ship is a nightmare to class 1. (undestructable against: fighter, interceptor, bulkfighters) and very effective against eagles.
A better idea is to have a ship that will add his own attack when it is hit.
But the spacetrace site is a little slow, so I can't invent something like that.
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 Post Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject:
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So..... this will survive a class1 fleet, but it can only attack once in each class battle. Basicallly.......... this is just a survival ship. Nothing to win pts by rite?
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 Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject:
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Note the ''a special defensive class 2 ship'' part in the description.
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:40 am    Post subject:
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http://www.spacetrace.com/forum/viewtopic.php?topic=425&forum=12%3Cbr

Is good that you ask Blackmagic...so bad that some noobs(which is not bad), newbies SPAMMERS in fact, answer you like knowing how to play the game more than you or the others.

Basically if you are followed by the syntax it hasn't been fixed yet...even that i haven't fought it, in theory it should happen that vs c1s like fighters, interceptors, etc. but not bulk fighters. Even so you can build just 250 of this ships, so against fighters you will win just 250 points luckily. Against is also bad, so there is wrong Jam's argument.

Now if we follow the description of the phrases it is even worst, because if it has the ability only at c2's sub-battle then you loose points against c1 of course. 200 fighters win vs 10 blobs.

And of course is a defensive ships but is created to give you points, it's like a flamingo on c2. if you have 10 destroyers and 1 blob against 11 destroyers you will win points for sure in that battle if your blob isn't attacked at last.
Because you are sacrificing a blob of 20 mp to destroy 3 of the enemy's destroyer which is 24 mp.

Also if you see the link at the beginning you realize, that not matter which description you follow it can be easily destroyed by ships with abilities of destroying of modifying c2s like Apollos.

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 Post Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:24 pm    Post subject:
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Admin, why isn't the blob available for production?
it's only available in a planet 9999999999.9 million years away!!!
this a great defensive ship, there's no other like it in ST....i'm sure that if more players used this ship, they would feel the same...
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 Post Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject:
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I don't like the name, I wish people would be more inventive.
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 Post Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject:
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Admin, why isn't the blob available for production?
it's only available in a planet 9999999999.9 million years away!!!
this a great defensive ship, there's no other like it in ST....i'm sure that if more players used this ship, they would feel the same...



thx for the input MJ , but name aside, Admin...plz...can you comment?!!
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 Post Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject:
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Admin, why isn't the blob available for production?
it's only available in a planet 9999999999.9 million years away!!!
this a great defensive ship, there's no other like it in ST....i'm sure that if more players used this ship, they would feel the same...



thx for the input MJ , but name aside, Admin...plz...can you comment?!!


If you want the ship to be researchable you have to take it first from those planets and play with them...
What do you think, that the other player haven't traveled all those LY? go there first!

Greetings, Rubens.
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 Post Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject:
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yes rubens, that's what i've been doing...i had a few battles using the blob, and i can tell ya, it's a very good defensive ship. very efective unless the enemy flt has apollos, it's a gamble...but so it is for every other ship in st....
it should be made available for production, it's far better than other ships being used...
btw, it looks like no one else besides me is travelling (to that planet, at least) to get those ships, i went there a few times, costing me almost 2days for a round trip at warp7
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 Post Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject:
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Wait so, this ship ACTUALLY exsists? God! Oh. I see.. that's why it's in 'All Existing Technologies'.. well.. fancy a name change once in a while?
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 Post Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:24 am    Post subject:
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good post mj. very informative. doesn't make you look like an imbecil at all.

maybe we could swap the blob with some of the current researchable technologies that no-one hardly ever uses. take some other ship on prewarps and make this one constructable instead. groovy idea.
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 Post Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject:
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We could scrap prophets perhaps, to start with
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 Post Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject:
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i agree, it cost to much, doesn't do enough damaged, it should at least destroy an entire class ( except c4 it should destroy only 1 ship/building, otherwise it would be too easy to wipe out one base...), and it gives you a headache just to plan an attack using the prophet bang head
easy choice...the prophet goes to some distant planet, if somebody wants it then can go there and get it, and the blob is put into production...it would be a good trade.
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 Post Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject:
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I agree (not with Senor). Nobody uses the prphet apart from multies. It is a rubbish ship and it is rubbish. So we should get rid of it.


Somebody make a topic about the blob, like, an appeal to make it and scrap the prophet.


But can we please think about the name!! (Otherwise I shall refuse to use it).
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 Post Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject:

actually the name suit's it... 'cause it kind of absorbs some of the attack to it's own life...besides, does it matter what name it has when you're out there kicking ass with it?
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