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Lady
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 Post Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 5:56 pm    Post subject:
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look at the BR and tell me, why my apollos did not shoot!

2003-05-29 16:53:30
your fleet 1 fights against the base from xxx at xxx
29.05 16:53:09 - your fleet arrived

yours: 94 ships
class 1:
20 fighters (1/1, 1 MP)
class 2:
19 troikas (0/10, 16 MP)
class 3:
41 cruisers (100/100, 60 MP)
13 apollo cruiser (0/100, 85 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)

enemy: 859 ships
class 1:
15 fighters (1/1, 1 MP)
class 2:
662 eagles (2/10, 4 MP)
180 wasps (1/10, 11 MP)
class 3:
1 cruiser (100/100, 60 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)
buildings:
1 defensive array (0/500, 0 MP)
1 research center (0/3500, 0 MP)
1 shipyard (0/3500, 0 MP)

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your class 1 vs enemy class 1: V ^
you:
20 fighters
enemy:
15 fighters



15 fighters vs 15 fighters






15 fighters vs 15 fighters




losses:
you :
15 fighters
enemy :
15 fighters
score in this subbattle: 0

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your class 2 vs enemy class 2: V ^
you:
19 troikas
enemy:
662 eagles
180 wasps



19 troikas separate into 57 ships
24 troika modules vs 8 wasps
33 troika modules vs 11 eagles






26 wasps increased the firepower of 104 ships
10 eagles vs 2 troikas
3 wasps vs 1 troika
6 eagles vs 2 troikas
32 eagles vs 16 troika modules
14 eagles vs 7 troikas
18 wasps vs 18 troika modules
5 wasps vs 5 troikas
31 eagles vs 31 troika modules
5 eagles vs 5 troikas




losses:
you :
19 troikas
57 troika modules
enemy :
11 eagles
8 wasps
score in this subbattle: -172

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your class 3 vs enemy class 3: V ^
you:
41 cruisers
13 apollo cruiser
enemy:
1 cruiser



1 cruiser vs 1 cruiser










losses:
you :
-
enemy :
1 cruiser
score in this subbattle: 60

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your class 4 vs enemy class 4: V ^
you:
1 mothership
enemy:
1 mothership
1 shipyard
1 research center
1 defensive array









1 defensive array defends in class 3: 1 ship
1 defensive array defends in class 1: 5 ships




losses:
you :
5 fighters
1 cruiser
enemy :
-
score in this subbattle: -65

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summary:
your losses:
class 1:
20 fighters
class 2:
19 troikas
57 troika modules
class 3:
1 cruiser

enemy losses:
class 1:
15 fighters
class 2:
8 wasps
11 eagles
class 3:
1 cruiser

score: -177
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 Post Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 6:12 pm    Post subject:
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Because the enemy has only got 1 cruiser in class 3. And 1 cruiser of yours shot it, so the enemy has no class 3 ships left, that's why the class 3 subbattle is over and your apollos don't have to fight.
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 Post Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 6:29 pm    Post subject:
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mmmhhhh...but they had to fight. i had won the battle and would had get points.
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 Post Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 6:45 pm    Post subject:
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from what i see the class 2 ships battled and the ended the battle in class 2 ships if you had sent a fleet with no class 2 ships ur apollo's would have battle with the enemy's class 2 ships then your apollo ship would have battled the enemy's class 2 ships for all battles start with class 1;s battling class 1's and then move on to the next class of ship in the fleet.
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 Post Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 6:58 pm    Post subject:
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ok. but if i had no class 2 the enemy class 2 ships would destroy all may class3, or not? did i make points or not without class2 ships on my side????
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 Post Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 8:33 pm    Post subject:
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your had class 2's:The 19 troikas where ur class 2 ships in ur fleet so but having them in the fleet u sent they battled there class 2 ship and that ended the class 2 battle so both fleerts ur's and theres moved on to the class 3 ships for the next class to battle.

but to the ? of if u didn't have any class two ships in your fleet the enemy fleet had 662 eagles and 180 wasps the attacking power would add up to 4634 Ap's so yes u would have lost your apollo's and cruisers by my count maybe 46 of ur class 3 ship's but i might be off a couple ships

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 Post Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 8:44 pm    Post subject:
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but if i had no clas two i would lost more points, cause his class2 had destroyed all my class3, or not?
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 Post Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 8:50 pm    Post subject:
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yes u would have lost more points by him having them wasp added to his eagles witch give his eagles a ap of 7x662=4634
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 Post Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 10:51 pm    Post subject:
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and they would directly attack your class 3
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 Post Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 2:05 am    Post subject:
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Apollos will only fire if there is an enemy to fire at, in this case, the cruiser was shot by one of yours, he had nothing left, so class 3 battle was over. Since you had a lot of cruisers the chances of the apollos firing at all were pretty slim against just one class three enemy.

This is a case where you can see how retro firing ships are more difficult to use than ships in a direct class fight.

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 Post Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 8:22 am    Post subject:
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That's exactly what I said :|
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 Post Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 8:31 am    Post subject:
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i thank you all for this lesson. i think i have to rebuild my fleets and use my old but very effective standard attack fleet composition.
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 Post Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 9:38 pm    Post subject:

yup =)
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