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 Post Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 1:12 am    Post subject:
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IC Anyways you have any more thoughts about these ideas posted or any new ones you can think of?
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 Post Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 1:38 am    Post subject:
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Someone check out this game http://www.starkingdoms.com ^We could make it more visible to see what alliances are at war by how they do it there.

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 Post Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 3:38 am    Post subject:
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cool I have played that game not too bad.

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 Post Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 3:27 am    Post subject:
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Never tried it....LOL....maybe i should
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 Post Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 8:24 pm    Post subject:
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Well, Sorry about getting new ideas down, but it has been awhile since I last thought of new things that could be added. I’ve been thinking a lot and I’ve noticed that then number of people playing Spacetrace has dropped. I think its mainly due to the fact that there has been too many major changes and too many problems, especially with multi. Well, here are my new ideas in the same format as before. They all have a pro and con to them to point out their ups and downs.

4. This is sort of an extension of the “Enemy Attack Priority” in number “3” I think this may be even a better way to organize the attacking and wars
a. Alliance NAP Screen- I thought of this because since I run an alliance I would really like to see alliance screen menus with a place to put which alliance we have NAPs (Non-aggresion pact) with. Either have it in a tab or watnot. That way alliance players would know which alliances not to attack =) Good idea? Also a war indicator could be added to indicate which alliances we have a declaration of war with. EVEN A BETTER IDEA!! There should be a screen in the alliance screen where all the alliances are listed. There the leader can decide which alliance it wants peace or war. For example, the leader can click “NAP” next to the alliance name or “War” After that is done, the alliance that has just been allied with will be notified that they have been declared war on. The only thing is that the alliance that has just declared war or peace should have talked about it to the other alliance else it is pointless. I think this will solve the problem with wars not being more upfront besides messaging.
Pro: This will help not only with notifying other alliance members on who is the enemy, but can help in notifying other alliances that they have made an enemy.
Con: This may require extra programming, but I think it’ll be interesting. I mean with all the wars with the Priveteers and WoC and everything =)


5. I don’t want to make any hierarchy with alliances or something because I want these ideas to be fair for both big and small alliances. I tried to think of some thing that could benefit both sizes. I believe that Spacetrace can be made more appealing than it already is, if, the admins creates a game where people can interact with their alliance and their “Planets” more.
a. Alliance Score menu- I believe that if alliance members are allowed to see their other members score they will be able to see who is contributing most to their alliance score. Say in the alliance screen, you can click “additional info” Here the score can be added. I think even more than the score can be added here. Maybe all your alliance members battle reports or random information can be added such as where they live and such.
Pro: This is a great way for both big and small alliance to know how eachother are doing and know a bit more about each other. I believe that alliance should be a tight community of players, who should at least know a little about each other.
Con: I’m sure that the alliance member can just message their alliance score to the other members, but I think this would ease communication a bit. Instead of messaging the alliance member each time he or she is curious about his fellow members score or something. You may say this is an unnecessary thing to add, but wouldn’t you like to know more about your other members in your alliance and how they are doing?
b. Planet Events - This is a new revolutionary idea that I thought might bring more people to Spacetrace and make it more interactive. This idea is conceived through careful thinking and many years of playing Spacetrace. I found that attacking “planets” are a big part of Spacetrace. The problem is that we turn down that fact that we don’t have much interaction with our planet at all, besides that fact that we build ships on it. I think certain things could be added so that you actually feel like the ruler of a planet =)
i. Bell Curve (title given due that the fact that when things fall at a random sequence it creates a bell, but anyways….)- I think that our planets can have random events that we could read or maybe fix. Say one day you encounter a message that says a rebellion has broke loose, but when then suppressed by you large army. Something of that sort, but better =). Or maybe you can have it where you can actually click the message and have a choice on what to do with the situation. Kool isn’t it? Actually getting to make your own choices on your own planet? But trying to make is more realistic is that each choice as a different consequence. Say you decide to kill the people. Well, maybe your MP lowers for a few days. Or Maybe you decide to let them rampage all over your planet. Then maybe all your buildings stop working for a certain period of time =)
ii. CODE GREEN, CODE YELLOW, CODE RED, CODE BLUE (Were all going to DIEEE!!! ) - LOL Get your attention? I though that this might be a way to satisfy ALL those people that always complain about research being destroyed or Wat not. There can be a automatic thing or something that changes theses codes. Each code represents your current status. CODE GREEN is that you are not being attacked or anything. CODE YELLOW is that there is a fleet with in some amount of sectors and could be a threat. CODE RED means that you are being attacked. All this could be sent to a screen in the alliance screen and messaged to any alliance members. The CODE BLUE is a special option. If you click CODE BLUE within 30 min of the attack. You can save your buildings by activating a planetary defense system that adds an additional 500 lp to your buildings, but you pay 250 points for the activation of it. Pro: This may help you if you really want your buildings and want to try to increase your chances in keeping them
Con: I really don’t think much of this idea because I didn’t really think it through. I’m real tired. I wish I could think of more things faster. This Idea this is giving me a head ache and takes so loooonnngggg!!! Ugh!


6. I realize that the invention engine is fairly new and is pretty useful, but I thinking that there should be a more advanced one for those that are serious builders….like me =) I feel there can be more things that ships should be able to do. There are things in the invention engine that just doesn’t let certain things. So here is just a insert to my nerver ending thoughs =) LOL
a. Sort of Boolean Code- So far this is the only thing I can think of. Wat I mean by Boolean Code is that there should be something where we can put conditional inputs in ships. Say:
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If asdf destroys 5 of itself
Then subtract 10lp from 1 class3

or
If 0 class2 exist
Then no attack

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I don’t really mean in this form, but if there is any way that you can make it so we can make ships do more things, like a custom attack. Then that would be great!
Pro: All inventers that are familiar with building ships can benefit from this. Also, this provides a broader range of ships.
Con: I am figuring that this will that a NIGHTMARE load of programming and brain power to figure how to integrate this =)



THIS IS ALL I HAVE TO ADD AT THIS MOMENT!!! FINNALLY! I Can’t think of anything else =) Well, this took me long enough. Say…..nearly 5 months of slow stop and go. PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR INPUT!!!!


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 Post Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 3:58 pm    Post subject:
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OMG thatz alot of crap!! you should really think through some of the ideas more cuz they sound cool, such as the code thingie. most of these ideas are good though, although together they are prolie a formidable task to program
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 Post Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:12 pm    Post subject:
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LOL! I was confused whe you said it was a load of crap. I couldn't tell if you liked it or not =) I sort of had to read it a few times

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 Post Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:51 pm    Post subject:
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lol. well i meant that it was alot of stuff. the "stuff" is good though, although they would be a big hassle to add but they would surely add to the game in a positive way

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 Post Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:43 pm    Post subject:
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Ok...Back to talking about the Ideas =)

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 Post Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:20 pm    Post subject:
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i was thinking that some of these ideas would sorta hurt privacy in an alliance ya know since most of them pertain to alliance sharing stuff and thingsg like that

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 Post Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:21 pm    Post subject:
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i was just thinking that some of the ideas should be optional so that the members of an alliance still have privacy

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 Post Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:06 pm    Post subject:
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uhh.. Ok this really sucks. Nobody talks in this topic no more. If people won't talk here i have no choice but to separate each idea and post them as individual topics. I don't think people would like that. THats too many topics =) LOL

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 Post Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:30 am    Post subject:
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Go ahead and separate this into separate topics, just stop whining, please.

You are starting to sound like my wife. :grin:

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 Post Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 4:54 am    Post subject:
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Is that a good thing or a bad thing
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 Post Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 2:14 am    Post subject:
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On 2004-07-03 05:54, JaM wrote:
Is that a good thing or a bad thing


If a bad wife it's a bad thing
If a good wife it's a bad thing too

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:21 am    Post subject:
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hey wouldn't you start complainig if something you spent so much time doesn't get any responce? I'm not too sure about that wife thing but by the sound of it you seem to not like that about you wife =)

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:31 pm    Post subject:
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sounds like a great idea.got my vote!

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:04 pm    Post subject:
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i wouldnt mind seeing this implemented either, its great that it makes the NAPs formal

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 Post Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:49 am    Post subject:
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Yeah thanks =) More people to add to the growing number of supporters =)
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Old Topic...new people.... something interesting to read .
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