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DavAlan
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:02 am    Post subject: Dominator "reconstruction" and other mods
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Altered mod or a bug??? also inaccurate description of jam mod.....

dominator (class 3 ship)
jams two enemy class 3 vessels but its emp-generator causes a time anomaly that moves 10 enemy class 2 ships a few minutes backwards through time. Already destroyed ships will reappear.

attack/life: 0/100
manpower: 70

researchtime: 12 h
buildingtime: 12 h


kazuuula-technology
needed research:
emp technology

battle details:
fights
(battle engine syntax: f)
jams 2 ships in the enemy fleet in the class it fights with and you get back the initiative
battlemessage: "dominator jams ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: jam,enemy,2,this,dominator )
reconstructs 10 ships of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in class 2 (technical LP +10 to ships that have less than 1 LP)
battlemessage: "time-anomaly causes the return of ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: reconst,enemy,10,2,all,10,time-anomaly causes the return of )

yours: 319 ships
class 1:
5 fighters (1/1, 1 MP)
270 penguins (4/1, 1 MP)
class 2:
21 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
10 holo-clone-ships (0/5, 12 MP)
class 3:
1 cruiser (100/100, 60 MP)
3 dominators (0/100, 70 MP)
7 plasma gunship (0/100, 92 MP)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000, 320 MP)
1 major reconstructor (0/150, 550 MP)

enemy: 9 ships
class 2:
7 destroyers (10/10, 8 MP)
class 4:
2 motherships (0/1000, 320 MP)

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your class 1 vs enemy class 2: V ^
you:
5 fighters
270 penguins
enemy:
7 destroyers
21 penguins vs 7 destroyers
1 fighter vs 1 destroyer
7 destroyers vs 7 penguins
losses:
you :
7 penguins
enemy :
7 destroyers
score in this subbattle: 49

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your class 2 vs enemy class 4: V ^
you:
21 destroyers
10 holo-clone-ships
enemy:
2 motherships
21 destroyers vs 1 mothership
10 clone-ships clone motherships
losses:
you :
-
enemy :
-
score in this subbattle: 0

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your class 3 vs enemy class 4: V ^
you:
1 cruiser
3 dominators
7 plasma gunship
enemy:
2 motherships
1 time-anomaly causes the return of 7 ships
1 cruiser vs 1 mothership

losses:
you :
-
enemy :
-
score in this subbattle: -56

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your class 4 vs enemy class 4: V ^
you:
1 mothership
1 major reconstructor
enemy:
2 motherships

losses:
you :
263 penguins
enemy :
-
score in this subbattle: 0

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summary:
your losses:
class 1:
270 penguins

enemy losses:
-

score: -7

Note: 3 penguins each to kill each c2 (leaving each with -2 lp...should not be reconstructable under defined syntax)
Inaccurate description of jam mod --> description is misleading (sounds like a "c3 swank jammer"...jamming 2 c3 in any sub-battle)....actual performance jams 2 in the class it fights as per actual mod (I would actaully prefer the description myself although jam sytax may not be set to affect subsequent sub-battles?)....

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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Dominator "reconstruction" and other mods
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DavAlan wrote:


(battle engine syntax: jam,enemy,2,this,dominator )
reconstructs 10 ships of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in class 2 (technical LP +10 to ships that have less than 1 LP)
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Where is the bug? "+ 10 to ships that have less than 1 LP" it's right there...it does not act as a minor reconstructor. ( -2+10=8 )

BTW where is the inaccurate description, on the word "vessels"? i didn't get that.
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Dominator "reconstruction" and other mods
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Rubens wrote:
DavAlan wrote:


(battle engine syntax: jam,enemy,2,this,dominator )
reconstructs 10 ships of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in class 2 (technical LP +10 to ships that have less than 1 LP)
[color=red]

Where is the bug? "+ 10 to ships that have less than 1 LP" it's right there...it does not act as a minor reconstructor. ( -2+10=8 )

BTW where is the inaccurate description, on the word "vessels"? i didn't get that.


Rubens: The thing uses (from the looks of it) the "minor rc c2 mod" on enemy c2 instead of its own but with +10 added instead of +1 so, guess you are right on this one

The inaccurate description is: jams two enemy class 3 vessels....quite true but only in a c3 vs c3 battle. In c3 vs. c2 it jams 2 c2...and 2 c1 for c3 vs. c1. As per the modification syntax: jams 2 ships in the enemy fleet in the class it fights with. So the 2 ships it jams are in the class it fights not just c3 (except vs other c3).

EX. the plasma gunship destroys 1 c3 ship (no matter what class it fights). The cruiser destroys 1 ship in the class it fights (assuming it's 100ap is enough...some c3 got > 100lp and c4 would obviously require more).

Using the dominator show the syntax (jams 2 ships in the class it fights) to be correct but the description limits it to jamming only c3 (not true).

A simple correction of the description to: Jams 2 vessels (nothing wrong there with not using "ship" lol ) in THE CLASS IT FIGHTS would be more accurate.

Note: in 8 hours I am gonna take advantage of the SYNTAX (instead of the description) when I hit one of those 0 0 25 2 myc defender fleets (20 ps gunships, 5 doms, 1 mr, 1 ms
Hitting with it with a c2 only spam and with 3 prewarp retraitors taken from keverland 2 weeks back (I am kazu btw) in with them (will be a quick easy kill of 6 of those c3 ) A 1st for me...never used retraitors yet lol.
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Dominator "reconstruction" and other mods

DavAlan wrote:
Rubens wrote:
DavAlan wrote:


(battle engine syntax: jam,enemy,2,this,dominator )
reconstructs 10 ships of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in class 2 (technical LP +10 to ships that have less than 1 LP)
[color=red]

Where is the bug? "+ 10 to ships that have less than 1 LP" it's right there...it does not act as a minor reconstructor. ( -2+10=8 )

BTW where is the inaccurate description, on the word "vessels"? i didn't get that.


Rubens: The thing uses (from the looks of it) the "minor rc c2 mod" on enemy c2 instead of its own but with +10 added instead of +1 so, guess you are right on this one

The inaccurate description is: jams two enemy class 3 vessels....quite true but only in a c3 vs c3 battle. In c3 vs. c2 it jams 2 c2...and 2 c1 for c3 vs. c1. As per the modification syntax: jams 2 ships in the enemy fleet in the class it fights with. So the 2 ships it jams are in the class it fights not just c3 (except vs other c3).

EX. the plasma gunship destroys 1 c3 ship (no matter what class it fights). The cruiser destroys 1 ship in the class it fights (assuming it's 100ap is enough...some c3 got > 100lp and c4 would obviously require more).

Using the dominator show the syntax (jams 2 ships in the class it fights) to be correct but the description limits it to jamming only c3 (not true).

A simple correction of the description to: Jams 2 vessels (nothing wrong there with not using "ship" lol ) in THE CLASS IT FIGHTS would be more accurate.


3 vessels;) and yep you are right in the 2° thing so lets wait the admin.

Greetings Dav:)
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