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this vote will decide about the future of this invention:
this can be added to the game
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it needs some changes but it is a good invention
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i will post the needed changes here
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no good try another one
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 Post Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: shi bomber
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shi bomber (class 2 ship)


this bomber will send itself into the enemy class 4 and blow up itself to destroy 1 class 4 ship, but in doing so it needs a escort of 4 ships that will also be engulfed in the explosion. 1 out of 15 of these ships actually succeed in its objective.


attack/life: 0/10
manpower: 70

researchtime: 2 d
buildingtime: 13 h


human-technology
needed research:
fanatic warfare

battle details:fights
(battle engine syntax: f)
reduces LP to 0 of 1 ship of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in class 4 but some ships are immune against destruction
battlemessage: "shi bomber detonates itself to destroy ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: destroy,enemy,1,4,all,shi bomber detonates itself to destroy)
reduces LP to 0 of 4 ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in all classes but some ships are immune against destruction
battlemessage: "explosion takes down ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: destroy,self,4,all,all,explosion takes down)
modifies LP by -5000 of itself in your own fleet in the same class, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect.
battlemessage: "detonation fails in ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: obliterate,self,15,this,itself,detonation fails in )
self destructs!
battlemessage: "shi bomber explodes "
(battle engine syntax: sd,shi bomber explodes ,n)
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 Post Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:15 pm    Post subject:
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this is my second ship I try but not sure if the man power is correct or if its fine.. i thought this would be a not to bad of a invention.. you know, just goofing off
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 Post Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:31 pm    Post subject:
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hmmmm

i dont know

might be a bit over complicated

though im not sure

weither i like it or not

a confusing one
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 Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:24 am    Post subject: Re: shi bomber
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tec_server wrote:
shi bomber (class 2 ship)


this bomber will send itself into the enemy class 4 and blow up itself to destroy 1 class 4 ship, but in doing so it needs a escort of 4 ships that will also be engulfed in the explosion. 1 out of 15 of these ships actually succeed in its objective.


attack/life: 0/10
manpower: 70

researchtime: 2 d
buildingtime: 13 h


human-technology
needed research:
fanatic warfare

battle details:fights
(battle engine syntax: f)
reduces LP to 0 of 1 ship of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in class 4 but some ships are immune against destruction
battlemessage: "shi bomber detonates itself to destroy ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: destroy,enemy,1,4,all,shi bomber detonates itself to destroy)
reduces LP to 0 of 4 ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in all classes but some ships are immune against destruction
battlemessage: "explosion takes down ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: destroy,self,4,all,all,explosion takes down)
modifies LP by -5000 of itself in your own fleet in the same class, there are no known ships and buildings that survive this effect.
battlemessage: "detonation fails in ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: obliterate,self,15,this,itself,detonation fails in )
self destructs!
battlemessage: "shi bomber explodes "
(battle engine syntax: sd,shi bomber explodes ,n)


4 standard class 3 = 60*4= 240
4 standard class 2 = 8*4 = 32
4 standard class 1 = 4

BUT 4 SHIPS ON CLASS 4 OF YOUR OWN FLEET?

This ship could recieve many critics, but is so bad that i wont say them.

First change the syntax because its totally useless.
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 Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:56 am    Post subject:
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i don't think it destroys 4 class 4 of ur fleet, just 4 of any class on ur fleet, but i think it is overcomplicated, and the mantis works fine
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 Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:07 am    Post subject:
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its more or less based off of a gamble.. you could get lucky and have the four class 1 ships destroyed or just not be so lucky and have your own class 3/4 taken out..

i saw the benefits in this ship was that you could use this to destroy the ms and make the fleet stuck in its tracks or you could destroy a major reconstructor.. i thought the benefits were tolerable expectally if you do stop the enemy fleet in there tracks and hurried up and built a counter fleet to destroy it...

yeah maybe the battle syntaax is a little complicated but its still dueable..

maybe a less complicated one would of been better.. give me your thoughts
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 Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:39 am    Post subject:
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Noxus wrote:
its more or less based off of a gamble.. you could get lucky and have the four class 1 ships destroyed or just not be so lucky and have your own class 3/4 taken out..

i saw the benefits in this ship was that you could use this to destroy the ms and make the fleet stuck in its tracks or you could destroy a major reconstructor.. i thought the benefits were tolerable expectally if you do stop the enemy fleet in there tracks and hurried up and built a counter fleet to destroy it...

yeah maybe the battle syntaax is a little complicated but its still dueable..

maybe a less complicated one would of been better.. give me your thoughts


You cant put random in a syntax...you kill 4 ships in a specific clas...plz make another ship.
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 Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:40 am    Post subject:
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Rubens wrote:
Noxus wrote:
its more or less based off of a gamble.. you could get lucky and have the four class 1 ships destroyed or just not be so lucky and have your own class 3/4 taken out..

i saw the benefits in this ship was that you could use this to destroy the ms and make the fleet stuck in its tracks or you could destroy a major reconstructor.. i thought the benefits were tolerable expectally if you do stop the enemy fleet in there tracks and hurried up and built a counter fleet to destroy it...

yeah maybe the battle syntaax is a little complicated but its still dueable..

maybe a less complicated one would of been better.. give me your thoughts


You cant put random in a syntax...you kill 4 ships in a specific clas...plz make another ship.


the only reason i didnt give this ship a specific class to destroy of its own is because you can aviod that by not puting anyships in that class..

look at the kamekazie battle syntax..
2. modifies AP/LP by 0/-1100 of 2 ships of any ship-type in your own fleet in the same class
battlemessage: "kamikaze destroys ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: mod,self,2,this,all,+,0,-1100,kamikaze destroys)

this ship here could destroy a mothership and a major if it want in its own fleet... yet it doesnt very often

so how do you explain that?
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 Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:58 pm    Post subject:
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want my opinion? too bad your hearing it anyway


if one of the ships it takes into the enemy fleet is a class 4 ship then if you have a major reconstructorand/or a time sliper or something else in it you have a 50% or 33% chance of loosing your mothership aswell and if you are defending and have no mothership this isnt a risk

and increase the mp and this will make it balanced

or would that make it too similair too the mantis?
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 Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject:
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another good point that has come to my mind.. this ship would be excellent if you just had it sitting around your base, cause then you can trap the enemy fleet at your base..

and one thing i dont get is why a kamekaze doesnt destroy c2 or c3 as often.... normally it only targets a c1/ another kamikaze... why is this?..

this ship has is just a modified class 2 kamikaze more or less...

i think this is a great ship.. for a couple of reasons
#1. You can take this as a scout and discover a enemy's fleet setup. (i know you can do this with any ships but just listen to my next reason).
#2. When you find out the enemy's fleet setup you disable there ability to travel by taking out there MS with this ship, then you can quickly try to setup a good counter fleet.
#3. .......i dont need a reason #3 cause reason #1 and #2 are good enough

now that you heard me and my reasons.. bring on the criticizium
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 Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject:
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Scout fleet setup...

simply the Shi bomber and a Mothership...

your lose would be only 70 points..

that 70 points would be used for time to come up with a possible counter fleet and disable their fleet for a while to buy some time.

Any way its a win-win situation cause if you destroy a Major Reconstrutor then you still gain points in that case..

yet this ship has downfalls like most ships... it is 70 points, and it does destroy 4 more ships of yours.. plus a simple apollo cruiser could destroy this if your enemy plans out a attack just right...

still i think the side effects are bearable...
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 Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject:
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Sorry but i have to tell you something...YOU ARE A NOOB, so you arent a new player with knowledge so stop talking if you dont know what are you saying.

The kamekaze dosnt destroy ships in other classes cuz the syntax says IN THE SAME CLASS!!!! And thats a thing this ship hasnt.

Now, once and again NO, ITS POINTLESS THIS SHIP.
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 Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 10:08 pm    Post subject:
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i have to agree with rubens, too much like mantis, and KAMES DONT ATTACK cl 2 and 3 directly! unless they are in a class battle with them they wont!!!!!!! read the syntax!

and final point, mantis

sry for the open criticism but i think this topic should be closed
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 Post Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 5:04 am    Post subject:
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sorry i guess that i over looked that.. and thanks for calling me a noob Rubens.. so what im proud of it

im pretty sure i just like to argue and i will be atemping to makeing more techs and ships for you guys to shot down

actually im dueing pretty good for a noob on his first evo meaning how im only 8 positions from 10 place

im sure you guys will be getting a whole lot more of me in the future
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 Post Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject:
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Don't worry, actually i was wondering how the battle syntax was going to work and looked at yours. The battle syntax does not complete fulfill the description. So far the admins do not have a setup where 1 out of 15 succeed. Might as well say that you need 15 of these ships and it will disable 14 of its own,. it also kills 4 ships in every class according to your Battle syntax. Not gonna work cause it pretty redundant to kill a class4 ship and then lost you own.

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this ship destroyet 1 enemy ship an destroyet 2 my ships
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 Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:47 pm    Post subject:

Dude.......... you make no sense.......... elaborate when you post.
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