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Lou of East from West 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 372
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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... instead of 4 class 3 ?!?
your class 1 vs enemy class 3: V ^
you:
1 fighter
enemy:
22 cruisers
2 warcruisers
6 apollo cruiser
1 plague ship
7 dreadnoughts
1 cruiser vs 1 fighter
losses:
you :
1 fighter
enemy :
-
score in this subbattle: -1
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your class 2 vs enemy class 3: V ^
you:
2 destroyers
enemy:
22 cruisers
2 warcruisers
6 apollo cruiser
1 plague ship
7 dreadnoughts
1 destroyer vs 1 cruiser
1 apollo cruiser destroys 1 ship
1 cruiser vs 1 destroyer
losses:
you :
2 destroyers
enemy :
-
score in this subbattle: -16
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your class 3 vs enemy class 3: V ^
you:
14 cruisers
enemy:
22 cruisers
2 warcruisers
6 apollo cruiser
1 plague ship
7 dreadnoughts
5 cruisers vs 1 dreadnought
1 torpedo-interception detected
5 cruisers vs 5 cruisers
3 cruisers vs 3 apollo cruiser
3 dreadnoughts emits shockwave
11 cruisers vs 11 cruisers
3 dreadnoughts vs 3 cruisers
1 plague ship vs 1 cruiser
losses:
you :
14 cruisers
enemy :
5 cruisers
1 torpedo
3 apollo cruiser
1 dreadnought
score in this subbattle: 90
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your class 4 vs enemy class 4: V ^
you:
2 motherships
1 shipyard
1 research center
1 transwarp-network
1 defensive array
enemy:
1 mothership
1 defensive array defends in class 3: 1 ship
1 plague ship infected the fleet
losses:
you :
-
enemy :
1 plague ship
score in this subbattle: 120
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defensive array
a defense system that destroys up to 200 class 1, 40 class 2 and 4 class 3 ships. in each class fight it gets one attack, so it varies in the damage depending on the number of class battles. this building cannot be rebuilt once it is destroyed.
lifepoints: 500
It should activate in every class battle, each time killing 50/10/1
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[ This Message was edited by: Lou of East from West on 2004-02-09 16:40 ] |
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Tofu Commander
Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Posts: 78
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | ... instead of 4 class 3 ?!? |
What do you mean? The defensive array was involved in one class battle, so it should have destroyed 1 class3 ship. Unfortunately you cut out the only interesting part of the br. Did the defensive array not destroy a class3 ship? |
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steven1982 Admiral
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 970 Location: Zwolle, the Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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hmm strange....
It should do 4 class 3, but however it says Quote: | defensive array
a defense system that destroys up to 200 class 1, 40 class 2 and 4 class 3 ships. in each class fight it gets one attack, so it varies in the damage depending on the number of class battles. this building cannot be rebuilt once it is destroyed.
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But i didn't program it, with me it always destroyed the maximum number (if they were present in the attacking fleet).
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | battle details:multiplies AP and LP by 0/0 of 50 ships of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in class 1 but some ships are immune against destruction
battlemessage: "defensive array defends in class 1: ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: destroy,enemy,50,1,all,defensive array defends in class 1
multiplies AP and LP by 0/0 of 10 ships of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in class 2 but some ships are immune against destruction
battlemessage: "defensive array defends in class 2: ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: destroy,enemy,10,2,all,defensive array defends in class 2
multiplies AP and LP by 0/0 of 1 ship of any ship-type in the enemy fleet in class 3 but some ships are immune against destruction
battlemessage: "defensive array defends in class 3: ... ships"
(battle engine syntax: destroy,enemy,1,3,all,defensive array defends in class 3 |
It destroys 50 class1, 10 class2 and 1 class3 ships.
If it fights in all classes it destroys 200/40/4.
Forget the descricptions, you have to read the battlesyntax to understand what a ship (or building) does. |
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Lou of East from West 1st Rear Admiral
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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So if enemy got no class 1, and I have, it is not considerd as class 1 subbattle?
same for c2 and c3 ?
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darkwolf Captain
Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 114 Location: Venezuela
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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the defensive array must be attacked directly so it can work in every battle...
u got ships class 1, 2 n 3, that is why the defensive array only got active when it was attacked by the enemy`s class 4...
also your enemy didnt have any class 1 or 2, if u dont have any class 1, 2 or 3, your defensive array will only destroy 1 ship in class 3 battle (and the rest of the ships will destroy your DA)
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Lou of East from West 1st Rear Admiral
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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On 2004-02-09 18:15, darkwolf wrote:
the defensive array must be attacked directly so it can work in every battle...
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Wrong!
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darkwolf Captain
Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 114 Location: Venezuela
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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On 2004-02-09 18:18, Lou of East from West wrote:
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On 2004-02-09 18:15, darkwolf wrote:
the defensive array must be attacked directly so it can work in every battle...
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Wrong!
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well, maybe.. im not that experienced, but at least tell me why
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masterp 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 237 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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the description says only up to 4 ships in class 3!
so if you have luck you will destroy 4 ships other way uo to 4 ships!
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Tofu Commander
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, the anonymous post above is from me.
darkwolf is right and as i said: "forget the description", It´s not explicit (sometimes even wrong).
The DA doesn´t do anything when it doesn´t have its turn. |
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steven1982 Admiral
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 970 Location: Zwolle, the Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | The DA doesn´t do anything when it doesn´t have its turn.
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But it did do something, it shot 1 class 3 instead of 4.
So it had his turn, so still the question why it didn't shoot 4 class 3.
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Tofu Commander
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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It shot only 1 (as you can see in the syntax which i posted above, for your convenience) class3, because it had only 1 turn. If you don´t have class1,2&3, but your opponent has, the DA shoots 4 times (like cyclopses, apollos & dreads can shoot 3 times, if you don´t use class1&2).
Example:
class1 vs. DA: kills 50/10/1
class2 vs. DA: kills 50/10/1
class3 vs. DA: kills 50/10/1
class4 vs. DA: kills 50/10/1
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In total, the DA kills: 200/40/4
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steven1982 Admiral
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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ah ic now, thanks for explaining it a bit more
You are right!
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Lou of East from West 1st Rear Admiral
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:24 am Post subject: |
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@Tofu
No man u are wrong, well at least u was!
I look at my previos br and ur theory holds ground,
BUT!
I remember from last round:
class 1 vs class 1
bla bla
DA activates in class 1 (up to 50)/(up to 10)/(up to 1)
class 2 vs class 2
bla bla
DA activates in class 2 (up to 50)/(up to 10)/(up to 1)
class 3 vs class 3
bla bla
DA activates in class 3 (up to 50)/(up to 10)/(up to 1)
class 4 vs class 4
bla bla
DA activates in class 4 (up to 50)/(up to 10)/(up to 1)
maybe something was changed, but i'm 100% that it did activate in every class battle!
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The Stalker Captain
Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Posts: 101
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:01 am Post subject: |
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Tofu is correct.
If the base fleet has all classes it shoots once in class 4.
If a fleet spot is empty it shoots again etc etc. So it is most valuable and most vulnerable when u have nothing in base fleet. |
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darklim Admiral
Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 1154 Location: Caracas, Venezuela
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:17 am Post subject: |
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The Defensive Array ONLY destroy ship if it get the turn, the defensive array only attack [b}1[/b] time so it only destroy 1 ship (abusing BBcode)
Because enemy don't have class 1 or class 2
And Lou, maybe your battle report are buggy or your memory is bad
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Lou of East from West 1st Rear Admiral
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, I see spaming started, so let's close it.
btw: Who needs DA to be rebuilt?
it's useles.
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darklim Admiral
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:30 am Post subject: |
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On 2004-02-10 12:03, Lou of East from West wrote:
Ok, I see spaming started, so let's close it.
btw: Who needs DA to be rebuilt?
it's useles.
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Lol, DarkLim = Spam
But the Defensive Array don't are to get a lot of points, it are a basic defense for your base.
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