warthog

[We are Bjork]

Does it hit directly? I didnt see that in the description.

[Lou of East from West]

@Tofu & Jam:
- spectre is nagotiable, but it seems ok.
- dread is "ultimate battle ship" and "built for every battle situation", and most obvius ship, for humans. If u remove shockwave effect it'll become useless. U can delete it then obviusly.
@limsky:
u are right, but in cyclop case u gota have enough of this to make their turn. (if enemy don't have class 1 & 2). Then u lost 80 points per cylop 120-200 = -80
as for dread. things are similar 375-252=123. in case he builds only dreds, that is cca 12 u need 2712 this babys, but I'll score huge points, around 3k.

ok limsky i corrected it.

Is it smart to have ships jumping 2 classes. Also I'm against neutralyzing cyclops. It is invincible, unless u attack it with fighters, what he will try to avoid!
As for spectre, dunno. It's not direct threat for class 2, so i gues it can done.

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Duke Lou
MoC of 9

[ This Message was edited by: Lou of East from West on 2004-02-02 13:48 ]

[ This Message was edited by: Lou of East from West on 2004-02-02 15:36 ]

[spacetrace]

it was not meant to shoot directly.

it`s a normal fighter-clss ship wich will just have no effect when shooting against fighters or destroyers.

you need to wipe out those classes (normally cyclops /apollo- fleets just don't have any class 1 or 2 ships)

so it is more a counter ship, but a cool one.

[limsky]

[spacetrace]

but it is invincible against the shock wav of the dreadnaught/cyclops/spectre

so it is a special weapon to wipe out those shock-waving-monsters

it can only fight against the class it is fighting with (no "distance" shooting, no missiles)

[spacetrace]

i made up my mind.

i think making the blockade runner invinvible for cyclopses (trigger_0_destruction)

this way any cyclops/dreadnaugh-captain has to fear to be trapped by a 1000 blockade runner fleet .

maybe this is enough to balance the situation ...

[Rubens]

i dont think it,,,we have the sporator! admin u can explain us something more about the balance? what do u want to balance?

[Lou of East from West]

I think u did good ST.
Also Bulk figthers should be resistant to shockwave & cyclops.


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Duke Lou
MoC of 9

[We are Bjork]

Except for the fact that cyclops resistant ships are available to 2 of the cyclops builders and not available to one non cyclops builder.

[spacetrace]

but what shall i do ? giving the blockade runner to eray then ?

or adding a new ship ???

[Lou of East from West]

3rd ship should be cross-over bulk & blocade.
like 1/3, 2mp, or 2/3 3mp, or so. Then every race can have ship unvurnable to shockwave.

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Duke Lou
MoC of 9

[ This Message was edited by: Lou of East from West on 2004-02-03 19:06 ]

[Tofu]

My answer to fighter-hunting fleets (i.e. cyclops & spectre):

http://forum.spacetrace.com/viewtopic.php?topic=2015&forum=26

I think there is much potential in signature-faking.

[Lou of East from West]

naa, and in 1 cyclop vs 50 class 1 (10 of ur "serpent" & 40 figthers)
and ur fighter gets first shoot & 1 cyclop kill all 50 class 1.
We need something that will vhitstand shockwave, and proced with assualt.


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Duke Lou
MoC of 9

[spacetrace]

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my plan is :
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blockade runner gets eray and it will get cyclops protection .

it will be safe against:

interceptor, spectre , dreadnaught shockwaves and cyclops ( so .. i can only be hurt by really honest guns ( fighter etc.) and very devasting effects doom-star etc. )


the nanites will get a new class 1 ship (now or later)


[ This Message was edited by: spacetrace on 2004-02-10 15:14 ]

[Lou of East from West]

and shockwave cruiser?

[spacetrace]

sure, but htose aren`t the problem

[kokomonk]

it should stay the same but attak cruisers to